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<blockquote style="border-left:5px double salmon; border-right:5px double salmon; border-radius:25px | <div style="text-align:right; font-size:85%; font-family:sans-serif;">—Nanaimo RCMP to Lisa's mother<br> | ||
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== Summary == | == Summary == | ||
When Lisa's mother first called Nanaimo RCMP to report Lisa's disappearance, '''RCMP staff refused to accept the report''', and advised her to call back in 2 days. | When Lisa's mother first called Nanaimo RCMP to report Lisa's disappearance, '''RCMP staff refused to accept the report''', and advised her to call back in 2 days. | ||
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=== Parent's efforts before calling RCMP === | === Parent's efforts before calling RCMP === | ||
Lisa's parents had reason to be concerned; it was not without due diligence that the decision was made to contact the RCMP. | Lisa's parents had reason to be concerned; it was not without due diligence that the decision was made to contact the RCMP. | ||
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'''Lisa had failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father''', | '''Lisa had failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father''',{{NDN20020704}} who was going to help her move into her new apartment using his [[Purolator Courier]] truck.{{NDN20020725}}{{TC20040404}} The move was something Lisa had been looking forward to,{{P20020902}} and she had pre-paid a deposit on her new unit. As Lisa was normally extremely reliable, her parents were immediately very concerned.{{NDN20020710}}{{CD20210505}}{{FMT20020710}} | ||
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'''Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail'''. | '''Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail'''.{{NDN20020704}} This added concern as Lisa had purchased the cellphone proactively/primarily so that her parents could always contact her (as she'd always been very close to her parents).{{NDN20020709}} Lisa always carefully ensured the phone was charged, and she had never powered it off.{{HSS20190624}} | ||
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'''Lisa's parents retrieved her address book and called ''"all"'' of her many friends.'''{{NW20150501}} Multiple friends said they saw her the previous night, in conversation outside the bar with the unknown male driver of a maroon [[Jaguar]].{{NDN20020712}} Others reported seeing her at a [[827 Nanaimo Lakes Road|houseparty]] on Nanaimo Lakes Road{{NDN20030529}}, or leaving a second party around the [[Cathers Lake]] area, in the maroon Jaguar.{{VS20110226}} But nobody knew where Lisa was now.{{HOC20201008}} | |||
<span class="info"></span><big>'''See also →''' ''"[[Reasons to suspect foul play]]"''</big> | |||
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=== Contacted Police === | === Contacted Police === | ||
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By this point, Lisa's parents were frantic.< | By this point, Lisa's parents were frantic.{{NW20150501}} | ||
On '''Monday, July 1<sup>st</sup>, 2002''' (Canada Day) at about '''11:30am'''{{NDN20020710}}, Joanne Young (Lisa's mother) called the Nanaimo RCMP detachment to report that her daughter was missing.{{NW20150501}} | |||
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=== Report refused by RCMP === | === Report refused by RCMP === | ||
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RCMP staff told Lisa's mother that '''''a report couldn't be filed until 48 hours after Lisa was last seen'''''. | |||
She was advised to call back to file the report after 2 days had passed.{{NDN20020704}}{{HSS20190624}}{{HOC20201008}}{{NW20150501}} | |||
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[[File:hoc20201008_manly_48hours.png|thumb|370px|left|border|frame|link=File:HOC_2020-10-08_Paul_Manly.mp4|alt=they said just give it 48 hours|MP Paul Manly, ''House of Commons'', Dec 8, 2020{{HOC20201008}}]] | |||
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=== Policy & Research === | === Policy & Research === | ||
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While once a common myth, '''<u>no</u> police force in Canada has <u>ever</u> had a policy requiring a "waiting period"''' before submission of a ''missing persons'' report.{{MP20121201}} | |||
Research shows that the first 72 hours are actually the ''most'' critical time frame of a "missing persons" investigation.{{ABC20181008}}{{First72hours}} | |||
[[File:ccima_48_hour_myth.png|left | [[File:ccima_48_hour_myth.png|left|border|frame|Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, ''"Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"''{{MP20121201}}]] | ||
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== See also == | |||
* '''Next''' ➜ '''[[Call_back_in_5_days | '''RCMP said <q>Call back in 5 days</q>''']]''' | |||
* List of all blunders on '''''[[:Category:Lisa's List of Fifty|Lisa's List of Fifty]]''''' | |||
* [[Timeline: July 1, 2002]] | |||
* [https://lisamarieyoung.ca/lisa_crimestoppers.html RCMP vs Crime Stoppers] | |||
* 2002-Sep-18 ''[[ndn20020918|Grim Task: Police comb woods for Lisa Young]]'' <small style='whitespace:nowrap'><span class='logo ndn'></span></span>[[:Category:Nanaimo Daily News|Nanaimo Daily News]]</small> | |||
* 2020-Dec-17 ''[[cn20201217|Nanaimo RCMP conduct new searches in nearly two-decade-old case]]'' (video) <small style='whitespace:nowrap'><span class='logo cn'></span></span>[[:Category:CHEK News|CHEK News]]</small> | |||
* [[RCMP didn't "suspect foul play" for 10 days]] and [[Reasons to suspect foul play]] | |||
* [[RCMP ignored neighbours' report of burial]] | |||
* [[RCMP failed to proactively publicize Lisa's case]] | |||
* [[RCMP failed to check cellphone records]] | |||
* [[RCMP failed to check for bank account activity]] | |||
* [[RCMP failed to obtain security camera recordings]] | |||
* [[RCMP failed to question bar patrons or Lisa’s friends]] | |||
* [[Timeline: July 1, 2002]] | |||
* [[RCMP statements]] | |||
* [[Lisa had been missing 80 days before the RCMP's first ground search]] | |||
* [[Search was delayed 18 days due to RCMP prioritization of simple 2 day case]] | |||
* [[RCMP's first search was focused more on officer training than on Lisa]] | |||
* [[RCMP lied about planned searches for Lisa]] | |||
* [[RCMP lied about how often they searched for Lisa]] | |||
* [[RCMP staffing issues prevented additional searches for Lisa]] | |||
* [[Re-enactment: "exhaustive search by Nanaimo RCMP"|Re-enactment: ''"exhaustive search by Nanaimo RCMP"'']] | |||
* [[Tips]] | |||
* [[:Category:Family searches|Category: Family searches]] | |||
* [[:Category:RCMP searches|Category: RCMP searches]] | |||
* [[:Category:RCMP delays|Category: RCMP delays]] | |||
* [[:Category:RCMP vs Crime Stoppers|Category: RCMP vs Crime Stoppers]] | |||
== Sources == | == Sources == | ||
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[[Category:Lisa's List of Fifty]] | [[Category:Lisa's List of Fifty]] | ||
[[Category:RCMP impeded investigation]] | |||
[[Category:RCMP spread misinformation]] | |||
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Latest revision as of 10:51, 21 November 2024
“Call back in 48 hours...”—Nanaimo RCMP to Lisa's mother
July 1, 2002 11:30am
Summary
When Lisa's mother first called Nanaimo RCMP to report Lisa's disappearance, RCMP staff refused to accept the report, and advised her to call back in 2 days.
This was despite the fact that no police force in Canada has ever had a "waiting period" before a missing persons report can be filed, and, in fact, research clearly shows that the first 72 hours are the most crucial to a missing persons investigation.
Detail
Parent's efforts before calling RCMP
Lisa's parents had reason to be concerned; it was not without due diligence that the decision was made to contact the RCMP.
Lisa had failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father,[3] who was going to help her move into her new apartment using his Purolator Courier truck.[1][2] The move was something Lisa had been looking forward to,[4] and she had pre-paid a deposit on her new unit. As Lisa was normally extremely reliable, her parents were immediately very concerned.[5][6][7]
Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail.[3] This added concern as Lisa had purchased the cellphone proactively/primarily so that her parents could always contact her (as she'd always been very close to her parents).[8] Lisa always carefully ensured the phone was charged, and she had never powered it off.[9]
Lisa's parents retrieved her address book and called "all" of her many friends.[10] Multiple friends said they saw her the previous night, in conversation outside the bar with the unknown male driver of a maroon Jaguar.[11] Others reported seeing her at a houseparty on Nanaimo Lakes Road[12], or leaving a second party around the Cathers Lake area, in the maroon Jaguar.[13] But nobody knew where Lisa was now.[14]
See also → "Reasons to suspect foul play"
Contacted Police
By this point, Lisa's parents were frantic.[10]
On Monday, July 1st, 2002 (Canada Day) at about 11:30am[5], Joanne Young (Lisa's mother) called the Nanaimo RCMP detachment to report that her daughter was missing.[10]
Report refused by RCMP
RCMP staff told Lisa's mother that a report couldn't be filed until 48 hours after Lisa was last seen.
She was advised to call back to file the report after 2 days had passed.[3][9][14][10]
Policy & Research
While once a common myth, no police force in Canada has ever had a policy requiring a "waiting period" before submission of a missing persons report.[16]
Research shows that the first 72 hours are actually the most critical time frame of a "missing persons" investigation.[15][17]
See also
- Next ➜ RCMP said
Call back in 5 days
- List of all blunders on Lisa's List of Fifty
- Timeline: July 1, 2002
- RCMP vs Crime Stoppers
- 2002-Sep-18 Grim Task: Police comb woods for Lisa Young Nanaimo Daily News
- 2020-Dec-17 Nanaimo RCMP conduct new searches in nearly two-decade-old case (video) CHEK News
- RCMP didn't "suspect foul play" for 10 days and Reasons to suspect foul play
- RCMP ignored neighbours' report of burial
- RCMP failed to proactively publicize Lisa's case
- RCMP failed to check cellphone records
- RCMP failed to check for bank account activity
- RCMP failed to obtain security camera recordings
- RCMP failed to question bar patrons or Lisa’s friends
- Timeline: July 1, 2002
- RCMP statements
- Lisa had been missing 80 days before the RCMP's first ground search
- Search was delayed 18 days due to RCMP prioritization of simple 2 day case
- RCMP's first search was focused more on officer training than on Lisa
- RCMP lied about planned searches for Lisa
- RCMP lied about how often they searched for Lisa
- RCMP staffing issues prevented additional searches for Lisa
- Re-enactment: "exhaustive search by Nanaimo RCMP"
- Tips
- Category: Family searches
- Category: RCMP searches
- Category: RCMP delays
- Category: RCMP vs Crime Stoppers
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 Nelson Bennett, Nanaimo Daily News (July 25, 2002),
Lisa's kin follow psychic tip
(source) - ↑ 2.0 2.1 Jim Gibson, Times Colonist (Apr 4, 2004),
The case Nanaimo can't forget
(source) - ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 4, 2002),
Parents fear daughter the victim of foul play
(src) - ↑ Jason Proctor, Vancouver Province (Sep 2, 2002),
Where is Lisa-Marie?
(source) - ↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 10, 2002),
Police fear local met with foul play
(source) - ↑ Jolene Rudisuela, Capital Daily (May 5, 2021),
More people go missing in BC than anywhere else in Canada. No one knows why
(source) - ↑ Fort McMurray Today (July 10, 2002),
Foul play suspected in missing B.C. woman
(source) - ↑ 8.0 8.1 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 9, 2002),
RCMP keep searching for woman
(source) - ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 Eric Plummer, Ha-Shilth-Sa (June 24, 2019),
Legacy of Lisa Marie Young to hang in Tofino
(source) - ↑ 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 Allison Crowe, NWAC (May 1, 2015),
Story Telling - Lisa Marie Young (PDF)
(source) - ↑ 11.0 11.1 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 12, 2002),
Woman's disappearance leaves friends perplexed ...rumours unfounded
(source) - ↑ Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (May 29, 2003),
When sadness turns to anger
(source) - ↑ Vancouver Sun (Feb 26, 2011),
Nanaimo RCMP appeal for help
(source) - ↑ 14.0 14.1 14.2 Paul Manly, House of Commons (Oct 8, 2020),
Debates (Hansard) No. 12 (43-2) at 1525
(source) - ↑ 15.0 15.1 Julia Jacobo, ABC News (Oct 8, 2018),
Why the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical
(source) - ↑ 16.0 16.1 Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults (Dec 1, 2012),
Quick facts about reporting a missing adult in Canada - CCIMA
(source) - ↑ NIWRC, "Quick Reference Guide for What to Do in the First 72 Hours" (Brochure)