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Island Crime s1e10: Red Jag Guy #1 | '''Island Crime s1e10: Red Jag Guy #1''' | ||
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Red Jaguar Guy, that's how I first think of Christopher William Adair when I began researching his connection to Lisa Marie Young's disappearance. While standing outside, one of her friends struck up a conversation with an unknown male who was driving an older model red Jaguar. The unknown male described in the | Red Jaguar Guy, that's how I first think of Christopher William Adair when I began researching his connection to Lisa Marie Young's disappearance. While standing outside, one of her friends struck up a conversation with an unknown male who was driving an older model red Jaguar. The unknown male described in the Crime Stoppers video about Lisa is in fact Chris Adair. We know for certain Chris is the driver of the burgundy Jaguar, the man who left a house party with Lisa in his car. And we know that Lisa is never seen alive again. | ||
I don't know what happened the night Lisa vanished, but I do know this | I don't know what happened the night Lisa vanished, but I do know this Christopher Adair is a key figure in this story and could be central in coming to grips with the Lisa Marie Young case. I'm and this is Red Jag Guy. A two part update to Where is Lisa? Island Crime, season one. These episodes mark the 20th anniversary of Lisa's disappearance with a focus on Christopher William Adair, the last person seen with Lisa. He wins people over. He's very charming. That's why no one believed me. And so he's good at what he does. He's very good at it. He's very disarming. He seems like Prince Charming because he can come across that way. Like I said, he's a very outgoing dude and charming even, and a little bit sophisticated. He has an error of he's sophisticated. He just doesn't have an education. He's just a nobody's gotten by on his grandmother's money and people's fraudulent credit card. Chris really doesn't trust people. He only can rely on himself 100%. The only person he can truly trust is himself. Based on my experience and the number of frauds he's been convicted of, I wouldn't trust him with an old piece of mail. He just has no soul. He's a manipulator and really the worst kind of person. I've one of the worst people I've met earlier in the series. I included the small bits of information I'd collected about Chris. I know a lot more now, including where he has been living most recently, and some of what he's been up to over the past 20 years. Lisa has now been gone for two decades. If you've listened to the earlier episodes in this series, you'll get that Island Crime is victim-focused. I've spent years talking to Lisa's friends and family, trying to bring her to life here so that you will care about what happened to her. And continue to demand answers for her family and justice for Lisa. But in these two episodes, I'm shifting my focus to a man who may hold answers to what happened to Lisa Christopher Adair. I'll be really clear Christopher Adair has never been charged in relation to Lisa's case. I'm not making allegations regarding Chris as it relates to Lisa's disappearance. Here is a fact. Christopher Adair picked up Lisa Marie Young outside of the Jungle nightclub in Nanaimo on the evening of June 29, 2002. Later that night, he leaves a house party alone with Lisa in his grandmother's Red Jag, ostensibly to get a late night snack. Lisa is never seen again. His proximity in time and place makes him someone I want to speak with, but Chris won't talk to me. I've tried getting in touch with him in every conceivable way. I've reached out through social media, through this podcast, through a number of his friends and relatives. I found emails and phone numbers for him and tried them repeatedly, but nothing. I don't read anything into Chris's decision not to speak with me. People have all kinds of reasons not to talk to a journalist. He could hate the media. A lot of people do. He might even have developed a particular dislike for me as a result of this podcast. Maybe he's been advised not to talk to me. Or perhaps he just feels like he won't get a fair shake. In focusing on Chris in these episodes. It is not my intent to shame or bully him into speaking with me. It is absolutely his choice to remain silent about what happened the night Lisa vanished. It's my hope that someone who knows Chris is listening. Now, Chris won't talk to me, but it's possible he has shared information with someone close to him. And so, in the absence of hearing from Chris, I'm continuing to gather information that brings me closer to understanding the man who represents the last real link to Lisa. By the end of these two episodes, you will know a lot more about Red Jag Guy before I turn my attention to Chris. A reminder of what's at stake here Lisa Marie Young, just 21 when she vanishes, beloved by her family and her many friends. Vancouver island, as it turns out, can be a very small world. I learned Lisa's auntie Diane lives quite close to me. Diane is Lisa's father, dawn young's sister. A while back, Diane painted her house while listening to my series about her niece. She doesn't want to be interviewed. She's still too filled with sadness and anger. But she does invite me into her home. Lisa was special to her Aunt Diane. She was Diane's first niece, her parents first grandchild. When I originally met Lisa's pleaquate family, one of the very first stories I heard was of how Lisa walked at about eight months of age. And now here I am, sitting with Lisa's Aunt Diane, flipping through pages of an old photo album. And the first picture she shows me is a baby Lisa, standing for the first time at just about eight months old. It's a story both sides of Lisa's family love to tell. Lisa so little and so filled with promise. I'm sitting in an armchair in Diane's comfortable living room. We're watching old home movies. She wishes she had more footage of Lisa, but I'm grateful even for the small glimpses. Back then, the family video camera was mostly reserved for Christmas and special occasions. And as luck would have it, those were times when Lisa would make the trip to Port Alberni to visit her family. Here. There's Lisa lying down, flipping through a big glossy book about her favourite hockey team, the Canucks. And there's Lisa, curled up on a sofa, watching as family members open Christmas gifts, pausing to stick out her tongue. good-naturedly mugging for the camera. Lisa is a teen in these images. She's hanging out with her family in her grandparents basement, the place where the most famous picture of Lisa Marie Young is taken, the one on the missing posters. Diane searched for Lisa back when she disappeared, convinced that Lisa might still be alive, held against her will. Today, she knows in her heart that Lisa is gone. But she hasn't stopped searching for answers. Christopher William Adair is the last verifiable nexus between Lisa and whatever happens next. When I began researching Lisa's case a few years ago, I hit a lot of dead ends. When it came to Christopher Adair, I knew he was driving his grandmother Jerry's red Jag that night. I knew his grandmother was a prominent realtor. Chris had been described as handsome, charming even. But it would prove challenging to find anyone to speak with me on the record about the guy. The picture that seemed to emerge was of a handsome, privileged, preppy young man, the kind of antihero you might find in a John Hughes movie. But it turns out I had put two and two together and got it wrong. The first image I could find of Chris appeared to confirm my earlier view. It's a childhood photo in the Nanaimo daily newspaper. Visitor enjoys Newcastle, taken in the summer of a smiling nine year old, Chris Adair squints into the sunshine, his shaggy, bright blonde hair gleaming in the light. He is lean, gap-toothed adorable. Newcastle island is now called Sesatchan, the original cinema first nations heritage name. And little Chris Adair is now a middle-aged adult, almost 50. But between then and now, chris's life has been far from charmed or privileged. Yes, his grandma was a wealthy and influential business person, but those advantages were not part of Chris childhood. Chris mom, Brenda, is young when he's born. She has little money, and I'm told she wrestles with her mental health throughout her life. As a child, Chris ends up bouncing between time and care and time with family. He's described to me as not a well adjusted child. At one point, a family member has a restraining order taken out against him when he's in his teens. I'm told there's a juvenile record, which of course, I can't access. The next time Chris makes the papers is in 1993. He is a member of the Royal Canadian Air Cadets. Now a teen, he's being awarded a prestigious Duke of Edinburgh award. The award is meant to encourage youth along a path to a productive and prosperous future. | ||
My life. I'm happily married with two children. I'll be 46 at the end of May. Meet Tanya. Not her real name, by the way. I have a career in the | My life. I'm happily married with two children. I'll be 46 at the end of May. Meet Tanya. Not her real name, by the way. I have a career in the long-shot industry. I work at the port, so I unload ships and drive machinery around the docks and stuff. I don't know I don't know what else to say. I know her real name and I'm confident in her identity, but I've agreed to keep her name confidential. Like most of the people whose lives have intersected with Chris, she worries about backlash for herself and her family. Tanya's world collides with Christopher's when they're both teenagers. In the early 1990s, I was working in the mall, and my coworker and I thought he was cute. And so my coworker told him that I thought he was cute, and he exchanged numbers and then it went from there. Unfortunately, I worked in the food court, and he came to get food from us. And I noticed him in the mall previously, that he would just sit out and watch his work and then came to get a hot dog or something. And that was when my friend said that to him. You can picture the scene. Tanya is plugging along at the food court in a small town mall. She's a teen in her final year of high school. And when Christopher Adair shines his light on her, she is drawn to him. I thought he was handsome and charming. Tall, blonde, short hair, always well kept, very charming, and told me exactly what you wanted to hear. This is Tanya's first boyfriend, her first love. She is captivated by Chris. He was my first boyfriend ever. First guy I've ever kissed, ever even talked to, because I was really shy going to school. So, yeah, he was my first ever boyfriend. Chris is a year older. He's 19. He didn't have a story and I didn't think to ask. I just was the first boyfriend madly in love with him. They do the kinds of things together that teenagers in love in a small town in the early 90s would do. We went to movies. I actually volunteered for the Campbells lasers at the time. So I was going to a lot of concerts and a lot of laser games, and I would always get him. You're allowed one free guest. But he would always come with me to those games. And I think back now, he wouldn't let me go to those games alone. To volunteer. I think back that now that he was going with me because he was controlling. He was down there and he'd watch me because I helped people find their seats and stuff. And he's down there and he watched me interact with the people. And I'm like, oh, he just wanted to spend time with me, but actually he was watching what I was doing. It's been more than 25 years since all of this happened, but I asked Tanya to sift through those memories and see what stands out about Chris. Back then, all I knew is that he had a sister named Brandy, a mum named Brenda. I never did meet her and his grandma jury on the island that always sent him money. Like when he needed money, she'd send him $500 or $1,000 or whatever she'd send them. He'd call her up and say, hey Grandma, I need some money. And she'd send it to him. I felt he was very close to his grandmother and his mother and sister. He was always like, protecting them. From what, I have no idea. But he didn't speak badly about his sister or his mum. Chris isn't working. He's attending school sporadically at best, but he loves spending lots of time cycling. He had a bike that he would go for long bike rides. He had really expensive bikes. He had no money to buy the bikes, but he always ended up with big expensive bikes and all the equipment that went with the bikes, like the fancy clothing and everything like that. So he'd go for bike rides for like 8 hours a day and then come back. He doesn't appear to have any friendships, but Tanya does recall a time when he took her to a house party. She describes the partygoers as a bunch of scary looking dudes. He took me to a house that was like, full of people doing drugs. And I'd never been around drugs in my life, so I got scared and I laughed. Tanya is still in Chris thrall, but not everyone in her circle appears to be as enamoured with her new boyfriend as she is. Every time we took them around the school or to like a school dance or whatever, everybody wanted to beat him up. For some reason, there was always a fight when Chris was there. I could never understand it because he didn't do anything while I was with him there. But everywhere he went, people wanted to beat him up. I didn't know what to make of it. I just couldn't understand why people always wanted to beat him up. I remember we went to a school dance and I lived within walking distance to the school, but we couldn't walk home because there was a group of about ten or 15 guys who were waiting outside the school for them to beat them up. So I had to call. Actually, we had jumping to my friend's car where we would have not swarmed and beat up, and our friend drove us home. I thought people were envious of the guys didn't like him because he was a tall looking guy. I don't know. I was very naive back then. I don't even know what I was thinking, to be honest. And then Chris takes things to the next level. We were just sitting on the bed downstairs watching a movie, and he started it. I'm like, no. And he's like, yeah, it's not going to hurt. I'm like, yes, it is. I don't want to. And then he just continued. Tanya has described herself as naive. She is also inexperienced sexually. He was the very, very first person that I ever had sex with. Like, I told him I was a virgin. And then when we had sex for the first time and I didn't bleed, then he really got angry. And then he called me a liar, and I wasn't a virgin, and he was mad for weeks after that, Tanya alleges Chris did whatever he wanted to do. So whenever he wanted it, he took it, whether I wanted it or not. Then before she knew it, Chris has moved in. He talked my parents into letting him live with us in the basement because his rent, the place that he was renting, was kicking him out. And again, me being naive and stupid, I asked my parents if he could move into the basement. They were under the impression that they were just helping these young kids out that had no family to help them. Tanya and Chris are together for almost a year. He's living in her family home. As time goes on, the relationship sours. There are a few moments that stand out from this period of time. A song came on the radio, and I turned it off because I didn't want to listen to that song. And he got up and he turned it back on. He's like, well, you know that this is our song. You want to listen to it? I'm like, no, I didn't know that that was our song. And then he slammed me up against the wall. I'm like, what are you doing? He tried to choke me. And then I got away from him and ran to my sister's bedroom and woke my sister up. Things are beginning to unravel in the relationship, but Chris convinces Tanya to accompany him on a short trip. It was like a hot weekend. We were there for a couple of days because we took a tent. It was a hot weekend, and we just walked down like, the desert. He was always trying to get me to go into the forest on trails and stuff like that. And I'm like, what are we doing? Where are we going? So it was like this really weird, creepy trip. And I'm like, I'm going home. I made sure that we stayed in the public area. I wasn't going into the forest with them. Tanya's parents, too, begin to feel uncomfortable about their daughter's boyfriend, the man now living in their home. Here's what Tanya tells me she learns from her mom, and she told me that when she was home alone with Chris, she was scared of him. She didn't like him in the house, her being alone in the house with him at all. Her father is no longer happy about Chris remaining in their home rent free. There was one time that my dad was trying to call his grandma to say, hey, what's going on? The kid needs money, their kid needs to move out or something. And Chris hurt him and went and ripped the phone out of the wall so nobody could call out of the house. And my dad wasn't a fighter, so he probably just tried to smooth over the situation. As the school year comes to an end, tanya is realizing she no longer wants Chris in her life. They've been fighting a lot, but she doesn't know how to end the relationship or how to get them out of their home. Cris has bought her a promise ring, but she doesn't wear it. A snapshot of her school yearbook tells the story. She didn't want him to sign her book. She didn't want the lasting memory of him. But then everybody was signing my yearbook at school at the end of the year, and he wanted to sign my yearbook. And I'm like, okay, well, you can sign my yearbook, but don't take up too much spots or space because I want other people to sign it. So he's like, oh, no, I won't. And then he goes and writes this whole entire, like, page of the book so I couldn't rip out the page at a later date. It's all on the hard covered book. And it's basically like he wanted to start a life with me. And he called himself that was his nickname, that he brought me up for himself, that he wanted me to call him. Chris writes about what a special young woman and girlfriend she is, congratulating her on her graduation and wishing that all her dreams come true. He writes, a best friend is someone who helps you when darkness comes your way. A best friend serves a purpose to fill the needy place best friends to the end. Love, stud Muffin. Tanya spends much of that summer away at cadet's camp. When she calls home to talk to her parents. She says Chris always picks up the phone and listens in so she can't have a private talk with them. When she does talk to Chris, they fight. That's all she tells him. She's not marrying him. She doesn't want to be with him. It's her feeling at the time that he's going to beat her up. She flees her home with her father. She recalls Chris packing up and leaving in a van. She alleges he rifled through the home before leaving, taking with him, among other things, her grandmother's wedding ring. Tanya moves on with a new boyfriend and a new job at Walmart. But Chris is not ready for it to be over. Once he was moved out, he would sit outside. I used to work at Walmart, so he'd sit outside on the bench and watch me work. And finally, my new boyfriend put a run to him. | ||
Tanya's new boyfriend tells Chris to get lost and threatens violence should he return. So, yeah, he eventually disappeared and left. That night. After I speak with Tanya, she sends me a short, sad post script. She writes, one more thing I forgot to mention. He was always telling me I was ugly. No guy would ever want me. He was the best that would ever happen to me. | Tanya's new boyfriend tells Chris to get lost and threatens violence should he return. So, yeah, he eventually disappeared and left. That night. After I speak with Tanya, she sends me a short, sad post script. She writes, one more thing I forgot to mention. He was always telling me I was ugly. No guy would ever want me. He was the best that would ever happen to me. | ||
I'm piecing together Chris's life as best I can based on original source interviews with those who can inform my story with direct experiences. The next voice you'll hear belongs to another woman who was temporarily a roommate of Chris's. I'm a graphic designer. I have a really cute little dog that I love, and I like hiking and rock climbing and outdoor things, but mostly I work a lot these days. She, too, has asked that I hold her name in confidence, although, once again, she is not an anonymous source. I know who she is, and I believe her information is credible. Meet the woman we're calling Larissa. I met Christopher Adair at the climbing gym in | I'm piecing together Chris's life as best I can based on original source interviews with those who can inform my story with direct experiences. The next voice you'll hear belongs to another woman who was temporarily a roommate of Chris's. I'm a graphic designer. I have a really cute little dog that I love, and I like hiking and rock climbing and outdoor things, but mostly I work a lot these days. She, too, has asked that I hold her name in confidence, although, once again, she is not an anonymous source. I know who she is, and I believe her information is credible. Meet the woman we're calling Larissa. I met Christopher Adair at the climbing gym in Nanaimo called the Romper Room, and I'm an avid rock climber. I was, and I still am. So I met him there, and he told me about this outdoor program he was going into inferny called the Mast Program. And I was interested to the point that I said, I want to join too. I want to do this program. It sounded amazing. It was all a variety of outdoor skills, such as rafting and mountaineering, and climbing was part of it, and ski, snowboard, instructing. So I applied and I got in. It was a long time ago, but I'd probably exchange information with him, and we agreed to be roommates. Chris is now in his early 20s. It's after his relationship with Tanya has fallen apart. I'm curious about how Chris comes across in those initial interactions. When I met him at the climbing gym, he just looked and seemed like any other outdoor person. And it was very surprising to me that he turned out not to be a very nice person, because most outdoors people are good people. The majority of them are just really honest, really nice people that you can trust. And so I let my guard down with him very quickly. And also I was young and, you know, into exploring the world, and so I just trusted him. And I just thought, you know, this is an outdoorsy person that I can be friends with. And I just went into being a roommate with him. And I'd had some roommates before, but they were people I knew really well. So he was, I suppose, the first unknown new roommate. But at that age, I would just meet people and I would just hang out with them. And I didn't think too much about it. I was very free spirited. I press her for more details about Chris. Back then, he was just pretty normal, honestly. He had short, slightly bleached blonde hair, perhaps. He was quite slender. He had an interest in the outdoors. He told me he liked mountain biking. I don't really remember there being anything remarkable about him or anything unremarkable. He was just a pretty normal guy. So it was really the program that drew me to him. The mountain Adventure skills training program takes place at the College of the Rockies in Fernie, British Columbia. Here's how the program is described on the website. Imagine your stunning DC Rocky Mountain classroom, where you'll spend time hiking, rock climbing, mountaineering skiing, canoeing, whitewater rafting, while also earning the certifications and training that employers want. And it gets better. The program takes place in Ferni, a town Rolling Stone magazine once hailed as North America's coolest ski town. The place. Hot tub time machine was filmed. So I apply for the program and I get in, and I've kept in contact with him, and so I let him know. And it just made sense that we would be roommates because we're both moving out to Fernie together from Vancouver Island. It's a long way away. I've never been there before, and I don't know anyone else in the program. Money is pretty tight. I got a student loan, but I can't afford to rent a place on my own, so it makes sense to share. So I give Chris damage deposit and first month's rent, and he goes out to Fernie before me to look for a place for us to live. And he secures a place, and I moved out there and he's found us a place. Larissa's mom drives her out to Bernie and meets Chris. Her mom is impressed. She likes this young man who her daughter is sharing a place with. What's not to like? He is charming. He welcomes his new roomy and her mum with a gift of coffee and new mugs. A housewarming present that year will be memorable in part because of the disturbing interactions with her roommate Christopher Adair. But it's also memorable because of the snow. Fernie is known for its deep powder, and 1999 2000 is a record snowfall year. Larissa tells me she'd never experienced such great snow so much that chairlifts are actually buried and things like that. But she recalls an amazing ski season, and the group she's with, the general group, was like everyone was very passionate about the outdoors, and we're all pushing ourselves really hard. So it was just kind of like that young energy. It's shaping up to be an incredible experience. But what Larissa doesn't realize, at least not yet, is that her new friend, her roommate, isn't quite what he appears to be. And this is going to sound really weird, but the first thing that I noticed, that I started to notice something was wrong, is we're in the apartment and I noticed his socks. And I said, oh, I have the same socks. And then I was like, well, that's funny, I can't find mine right now. And they're very distinct socks because when you buy outdoor socks, they're wool and they're expensive. So he had stolen my socks. Like, what the hell? Who does that? This small, mundane thing is just the first of a cascading series of circumstances between Larissa and her new roomy. So what happened was he found a place, he took my money. He didn't give any of it to the landlord. He kept it. And he told the landlord that I was the one that wasn't paying. And he and I signed a lease agreement together for a year. So we're both on a lease agreement. I signed the paperwork. I don't know how he's a smooth talker. He managed to convince the landlady to have this place without paying the damage. Maybe he told her that I was going to pay it. I'd already paid it to him. He didn't give it to her. She doesn't know any of this when she moves in, begins the course, and settles into her new place with her new friend, and we start the program. I have my student loan, and it's barely enough to cover my year. Honestly, it's not really enough. But at the time, I have my full student loan, and I had some trouble getting it in. It took a little while. And he tells me at the start of the program, he says, all my outdoor gear has been shipped here and it's being held at the Greyhound and I can't get it because my student loan hasn't come in yet. And he doesn't actually, I don't think he asked me for the money. Maybe he did or maybe he didn't, but I was just like, oh, well, I understand that getting your student loan can be difficult and take some time because I've had some trouble with mine. And he's going to get his student loan anytime. I'll just lend you the money until your student loan comes in. And I don't know about the rent and the damage deposit at this point, I just still think we're friends and he's an honest person. So I lend him money to get his stuff out of the Greyhound, and that was the sum of three or $500, which is enough for a student. It's a. Lot. It's not a lot if you're going to get it back, but I didn't get it back. It's only been a few weeks of living together when she accompanies Chris and another friend on a climbing trip. The three of us went on a little climbing trip to the States, or we tried to, and we got turned around at the border. We were in the other guy's vehicle and tried to cross the border and we couldn't get through because Chris had a criminal record. He told us what's probably lies. He said, I had some BB gun incident where they thought I was using a real gun. And there was this immigration thing where I was trying to go to New Zealand. And he just told us some lies or some stories, or maybe it's the truth, I don't know. He told us some stuff that we believed at the time because we didn't know. And honestly, even still, when I try and cross at that border, it comes up that I tried to cross with a criminal. And I have to explain that I didn't know who he was and I didn't know anything about him. And I don't know what's on his record exactly, but he is a very long rap sheet. Even at that age, he had a rap sheet. Their program means they're outdoors in the mountains doing adventurous, even dangerous activities together. Activities where relying on each other means trusting someone with your life. And this has nothing to do with his fraudulence, but he almost killed me. Like, he did something that I could have died. It just has to do with not knowing enough and not being a climber. You might not understand, but basically he let up something on gear and put in an anchor that only had two pieces. When I got to the top, he clipped me into it. And normally you always clip yourself in. You don't ever let someone else clip you in. But he just didn't know enough and he clipped me in and he did it, and I let him because the anchor he had made was off to the side and I couldn't reach it from where I was, so he clipped me in. And you should always put in three pieces for a gear anchor, but he put in two and one of them blew. And now I'm on one piece and also that piece get shock loaded. So the whole thing was super unsafe and I just wanted down. So I made my own anchor and rappel down immediately and then stayed on the ground. I was, like, done for the day. And I was pretty shaken. So that could have been the end of my life right there. But honestly, that wasn't him being malicious or being a bad person. That was just him not knowing enough. I don't remember if he apologized or not. I went down and he didn't fight me over that. He was like, you want to go down. Cool. The financial stuff, he knew what he was doing there. He was very good at that. By now, she's beginning to have some doubts about her roommate. At the time when I first realized I was being ripped off, he had these notepad, and this is why I was still living with him. He had these notepads around the apartment from his grandma, and she's a real estate agent. Her name is Jerry Adair. And I called her because her phone number was right on the notepad. And I said, Your grandson is ripping me off. Can you help me? And she said, I'm sorry, dear, I can't help you. And she said, I can't help you. And Chris told me that you're paying for his school. Is that true? And she said, Chris has gotten a lot of money out of me over the years, but I didn't give it to him. That's what she said. And she sounded weary. She sounded like she's been dealing with for a very long time, and she's sick of it. And she wasn't mean to me, but she was cold. She was like your problem. I think he's been like that for a long time, just get what he wants out of people and not think twice about it. So not a nice person. Definitely not a nice person. And then the last straw. Just before the end of the month, he and some other people from my class, I don't remember who because I wasn't there, they did a little boys trip to Calgary, which is fairly close to Fernie, and he was arrested and held overnight in jail. I don't know what, four, but they just told me that he didn't come back because he was arrested. And I was like, that's it, I'm out. I don't know what this guy's deal is, but I'm not staying. So I wrote a letter to the landlady, and that's when I found out that he hadn't paid anything to her. And she was a nice enough lady, but she thinks I'm the bad one at this point, and she thinks I'm the one who hasn't paid. And so when I write her the letter and I'm moving out, she thinks it's me. So she's not particularly friendly to me because he's the one that got the place, he's the one that secured it. He's the one that has been talking to her. And I literally just met her. So I was moved out. By the time he got back from jail, overnight, I was out. So Larissa moves out, but she can't put Chris behind her just yet. I just need it out immediately. But I took all my personal belongings, but I still had some furniture in there. And then he got another roommate, and I couldn't get my furniture back, and I asked him for it. The program which she loves has just begun. She's in a cohort of about 20 people, and she has to see Chris regularly. And to everyone else in the class, he's a great guy. And now we're in school together. I'm seeing him every day. He owes me money for the greyhound. He owes the landlady, the rent and the damage deposit. And I want him to pay it because that's on my name and it's just not right. So I want him to pay that to her. I know he had it because I gave it to him. I'm a pretty nice person, and it's not my strong point is, like, being a tough guy. Although I've gotten better at it. I would hassle him about paying me back, and he never did. And I tried to tell my classmates about it and no one would believe me. They said, oh, but he's so nice. He gives me rides to school. And no one believed me at all. And he's still going to school. I'm seeing him every day. It's just infuriating. And on top of that, he's buying himself new stuff. He comes to school with new sunglasses that I know are like 100 and $5200. They're like these cool sunglasses with polarized lenses, and he just bought them. And I saw him all the time at school, right? So I tried to tell people. No one believed me. I kind of gave up, honestly. And that just goes to show what a master manipulator he was. He was able to let people's guard down and I don't know, I was able to figure him out fairly quickly. But he'd already gotten quite a bit of money out of me before I figured it out, right? So I tried to protect other people the best I could. As winter wears on, Chris decides to plan a New Year's Eve rave party. | ||
Here's what Larissa says happens next. He organizes a rave party, and actually, I'll just tell you what kind of things he's into. Just important to know. But he's really into electronic music. He really likes that. He likes DJ music, and I do too. And that was another thing we had in common. I like that kind of music too, and I like dancing. Anyway, so he organizes a rave party, and he's going to fly in this DJ and he recruits a guy from our class to help him with organized this event. And so he rents out the community | Here's what Larissa says happens next. He organizes a rave party, and actually, I'll just tell you what kind of things he's into. Just important to know. But he's really into electronic music. He really likes that. He likes DJ music, and I do too. And that was another thing we had in common. I like that kind of music too, and I like dancing. Anyway, so he organizes a rave party, and he's going to fly in this DJ and he recruits a guy from our class to help him with organized this event. And so he rents out the community centre or some sort of community hall to host it. And he's flying in this DJ and he's selling tickets. And I tell this guy his name is Dave, I'm like, do not put money up. I was like, this guy is a con. I've already told you that. Don't do this. And he's like, Well, I think it'll be really cool. I'm like, okay, we'll do what you want, but just don't put money in. I don't know if he did or not. He never admitted if he did or not, but he helped him with the rave, and it seems like it's going to go on. And he sells tickets through the local snowboard store to super nice guys who'd moved there from somewhere else. Super nice guys, they're selling tickets through the store. Well, or the night before. He cancels it, but he's already picked up all the money from these tickets through the snowboard store. He's already come and collected all the money and now he cancels the rave. And these guys are new in town and they have a reputation to earn. So when people come back to the store and ask for their money back for the tickets, they had to pay them back. But Chris has the money, so he really does a number on them. And also a lot of people just didn't get their money back. And rave tickets, I'm not sure how much they were. Probably about $30. So when you times that by a lot of people, he's just done a town wide scam now. And I think for sure someone has to like, out this guy. But now he's stays in town for like another, I don't know how many months. And he just lays low in the same apartment where I live with him. And I found out from the landlady he never paid rent the whole time he was there and she couldn't get him out. I tracked down an owner of the snowboard store. They confirmed they confronted Chris. Things got heated, the police recalled, but nothing could be done to get the money back. The court carries on with Larissa, doing her best to steer clear of Chris. Not easy in their small class. We're all there, and I just avoid being directly with him. Obviously I would see him all the time, but I didn't engage with him. But, yeah, just continue doing the course for the most part. Just forget about him and just chalk it up to you as a shitty guy and you learn and you move on, right? Larissa's short time as Kris Rumi would have ripples in her life for a few years. She gets a call from a collection agent for $5,000 on the hook for rent at the apartment she and Chris shared. She successfully argues she didn't live there and doesn't have to pay. She thinks that's the end of it. And then a few years later, something quite strange happens. And I was at a house party and it's outdoorsy, nice people, and I see him across the room and I'm like, that piece of shit. And my blood boils when I see him. And I'm like then I'm like, okay, you know what? You're past that. You are just going to be civil and you're going to say hi. So I go over and I say, hi, Chris, how are you doing? And I just really pull myself together to just be civil and pleasant and just put it in the past. And he says to me, I'm not Chris. I'm Gary. I was like, what you're Chris. He's like, no, my name is Gary. I don't know what you're talking about. And I'm just floored because I'm like, no, that's him for sure. But his face is filled out a little bit. So when I knew him in fern, he was very skinny and he was a little bit more filled out. So I have a second of doubt. I'm really weirded out by this, so I can't say for sure if it was him or not, but I think it was and I think he had changed his identity or at least he was going by another name. So that's just something to think about, is that he probably is a slippery fish. Before I let her go, she wants to share a few details about the Christopher Adair she knew back then. He has a metal plate in his face from where he got punched. He told me it was over a girl, but he has a metal plate in his face. And honestly, when I saw him or Gary at the party, I wanted to take a metal detector to his face and just see, I knew it. I knew it was you. He also used to have an eyebrow ring on one side. I don't remember which side it was, but he had one. And that leaves a scar usually. And it was a ring appears. And what else about him? Oh, yeah, he used to be in cadets, so when I lived with him, he could not handle it. If you left one dirty fort beside the sink, he would lose it. He would get really mad about that. And he was very OCD about cleanliness and about dishes. And he told me it came from being in cadets. And when he was in cadets, they used to have to make their bed and it had to be so tight that you could bounce a quarter off of it. So they would make their bed and nail the sheets down and then sleep underneath them or sleep on the floor so they could keep their beds tight. So I don't know if that shaped who he is. A little bit like Tanya Larissa managed to move on and even to learn from her experience with Chris. I honestly don't think about him and I just kind of almost joke about it. I'm like, oh, I lived with a con artist once. It was kind of like just a life experience. That's what I call him, the con artist. That's what he is to me. | ||
Ahead in part two of red jaguar, meet two of the police officers whose careers have crossed paths with Christopher Adair. You're also going to hear where he is now and why it's possible his past may yet catch up with him. | Ahead in part two of red jaguar, meet two of the police officers whose careers have crossed paths with Christopher Adair. You're also going to hear where he is now and why it's possible his past may yet catch up with him. | ||
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Island Crime podcast s1e10: Red Jag Guy 1
Laura Palmer (Jun 21, 2022) (Previous) (Next)
source: https://island-crime.simplecast.com/episodes/s1e10-red-jag-guy-part-1
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy0Q3UFd5sM
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Island Crime s1e10: Red Jag Guy #1
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Red Jaguar Guy, that's how I first think of Christopher William Adair when I began researching his connection to Lisa Marie Young's disappearance. While standing outside, one of her friends struck up a conversation with an unknown male who was driving an older model red Jaguar. The unknown male described in the Crime Stoppers video about Lisa is in fact Chris Adair. We know for certain Chris is the driver of the burgundy Jaguar, the man who left a house party with Lisa in his car. And we know that Lisa is never seen alive again.
I don't know what happened the night Lisa vanished, but I do know this Christopher Adair is a key figure in this story and could be central in coming to grips with the Lisa Marie Young case. I'm and this is Red Jag Guy. A two part update to Where is Lisa? Island Crime, season one. These episodes mark the 20th anniversary of Lisa's disappearance with a focus on Christopher William Adair, the last person seen with Lisa. He wins people over. He's very charming. That's why no one believed me. And so he's good at what he does. He's very good at it. He's very disarming. He seems like Prince Charming because he can come across that way. Like I said, he's a very outgoing dude and charming even, and a little bit sophisticated. He has an error of he's sophisticated. He just doesn't have an education. He's just a nobody's gotten by on his grandmother's money and people's fraudulent credit card. Chris really doesn't trust people. He only can rely on himself 100%. The only person he can truly trust is himself. Based on my experience and the number of frauds he's been convicted of, I wouldn't trust him with an old piece of mail. He just has no soul. He's a manipulator and really the worst kind of person. I've one of the worst people I've met earlier in the series. I included the small bits of information I'd collected about Chris. I know a lot more now, including where he has been living most recently, and some of what he's been up to over the past 20 years. Lisa has now been gone for two decades. If you've listened to the earlier episodes in this series, you'll get that Island Crime is victim-focused. I've spent years talking to Lisa's friends and family, trying to bring her to life here so that you will care about what happened to her. And continue to demand answers for her family and justice for Lisa. But in these two episodes, I'm shifting my focus to a man who may hold answers to what happened to Lisa Christopher Adair. I'll be really clear Christopher Adair has never been charged in relation to Lisa's case. I'm not making allegations regarding Chris as it relates to Lisa's disappearance. Here is a fact. Christopher Adair picked up Lisa Marie Young outside of the Jungle nightclub in Nanaimo on the evening of June 29, 2002. Later that night, he leaves a house party alone with Lisa in his grandmother's Red Jag, ostensibly to get a late night snack. Lisa is never seen again. His proximity in time and place makes him someone I want to speak with, but Chris won't talk to me. I've tried getting in touch with him in every conceivable way. I've reached out through social media, through this podcast, through a number of his friends and relatives. I found emails and phone numbers for him and tried them repeatedly, but nothing. I don't read anything into Chris's decision not to speak with me. People have all kinds of reasons not to talk to a journalist. He could hate the media. A lot of people do. He might even have developed a particular dislike for me as a result of this podcast. Maybe he's been advised not to talk to me. Or perhaps he just feels like he won't get a fair shake. In focusing on Chris in these episodes. It is not my intent to shame or bully him into speaking with me. It is absolutely his choice to remain silent about what happened the night Lisa vanished. It's my hope that someone who knows Chris is listening. Now, Chris won't talk to me, but it's possible he has shared information with someone close to him. And so, in the absence of hearing from Chris, I'm continuing to gather information that brings me closer to understanding the man who represents the last real link to Lisa. By the end of these two episodes, you will know a lot more about Red Jag Guy before I turn my attention to Chris. A reminder of what's at stake here Lisa Marie Young, just 21 when she vanishes, beloved by her family and her many friends. Vancouver island, as it turns out, can be a very small world. I learned Lisa's auntie Diane lives quite close to me. Diane is Lisa's father, dawn young's sister. A while back, Diane painted her house while listening to my series about her niece. She doesn't want to be interviewed. She's still too filled with sadness and anger. But she does invite me into her home. Lisa was special to her Aunt Diane. She was Diane's first niece, her parents first grandchild. When I originally met Lisa's pleaquate family, one of the very first stories I heard was of how Lisa walked at about eight months of age. And now here I am, sitting with Lisa's Aunt Diane, flipping through pages of an old photo album. And the first picture she shows me is a baby Lisa, standing for the first time at just about eight months old. It's a story both sides of Lisa's family love to tell. Lisa so little and so filled with promise. I'm sitting in an armchair in Diane's comfortable living room. We're watching old home movies. She wishes she had more footage of Lisa, but I'm grateful even for the small glimpses. Back then, the family video camera was mostly reserved for Christmas and special occasions. And as luck would have it, those were times when Lisa would make the trip to Port Alberni to visit her family. Here. There's Lisa lying down, flipping through a big glossy book about her favourite hockey team, the Canucks. And there's Lisa, curled up on a sofa, watching as family members open Christmas gifts, pausing to stick out her tongue. good-naturedly mugging for the camera. Lisa is a teen in these images. She's hanging out with her family in her grandparents basement, the place where the most famous picture of Lisa Marie Young is taken, the one on the missing posters. Diane searched for Lisa back when she disappeared, convinced that Lisa might still be alive, held against her will. Today, she knows in her heart that Lisa is gone. But she hasn't stopped searching for answers. Christopher William Adair is the last verifiable nexus between Lisa and whatever happens next. When I began researching Lisa's case a few years ago, I hit a lot of dead ends. When it came to Christopher Adair, I knew he was driving his grandmother Jerry's red Jag that night. I knew his grandmother was a prominent realtor. Chris had been described as handsome, charming even. But it would prove challenging to find anyone to speak with me on the record about the guy. The picture that seemed to emerge was of a handsome, privileged, preppy young man, the kind of antihero you might find in a John Hughes movie. But it turns out I had put two and two together and got it wrong. The first image I could find of Chris appeared to confirm my earlier view. It's a childhood photo in the Nanaimo daily newspaper. Visitor enjoys Newcastle, taken in the summer of a smiling nine year old, Chris Adair squints into the sunshine, his shaggy, bright blonde hair gleaming in the light. He is lean, gap-toothed adorable. Newcastle island is now called Sesatchan, the original cinema first nations heritage name. And little Chris Adair is now a middle-aged adult, almost 50. But between then and now, chris's life has been far from charmed or privileged. Yes, his grandma was a wealthy and influential business person, but those advantages were not part of Chris childhood. Chris mom, Brenda, is young when he's born. She has little money, and I'm told she wrestles with her mental health throughout her life. As a child, Chris ends up bouncing between time and care and time with family. He's described to me as not a well adjusted child. At one point, a family member has a restraining order taken out against him when he's in his teens. I'm told there's a juvenile record, which of course, I can't access. The next time Chris makes the papers is in 1993. He is a member of the Royal Canadian Air Cadets. Now a teen, he's being awarded a prestigious Duke of Edinburgh award. The award is meant to encourage youth along a path to a productive and prosperous future.
My life. I'm happily married with two children. I'll be 46 at the end of May. Meet Tanya. Not her real name, by the way. I have a career in the long-shot industry. I work at the port, so I unload ships and drive machinery around the docks and stuff. I don't know I don't know what else to say. I know her real name and I'm confident in her identity, but I've agreed to keep her name confidential. Like most of the people whose lives have intersected with Chris, she worries about backlash for herself and her family. Tanya's world collides with Christopher's when they're both teenagers. In the early 1990s, I was working in the mall, and my coworker and I thought he was cute. And so my coworker told him that I thought he was cute, and he exchanged numbers and then it went from there. Unfortunately, I worked in the food court, and he came to get food from us. And I noticed him in the mall previously, that he would just sit out and watch his work and then came to get a hot dog or something. And that was when my friend said that to him. You can picture the scene. Tanya is plugging along at the food court in a small town mall. She's a teen in her final year of high school. And when Christopher Adair shines his light on her, she is drawn to him. I thought he was handsome and charming. Tall, blonde, short hair, always well kept, very charming, and told me exactly what you wanted to hear. This is Tanya's first boyfriend, her first love. She is captivated by Chris. He was my first boyfriend ever. First guy I've ever kissed, ever even talked to, because I was really shy going to school. So, yeah, he was my first ever boyfriend. Chris is a year older. He's 19. He didn't have a story and I didn't think to ask. I just was the first boyfriend madly in love with him. They do the kinds of things together that teenagers in love in a small town in the early 90s would do. We went to movies. I actually volunteered for the Campbells lasers at the time. So I was going to a lot of concerts and a lot of laser games, and I would always get him. You're allowed one free guest. But he would always come with me to those games. And I think back now, he wouldn't let me go to those games alone. To volunteer. I think back that now that he was going with me because he was controlling. He was down there and he'd watch me because I helped people find their seats and stuff. And he's down there and he watched me interact with the people. And I'm like, oh, he just wanted to spend time with me, but actually he was watching what I was doing. It's been more than 25 years since all of this happened, but I asked Tanya to sift through those memories and see what stands out about Chris. Back then, all I knew is that he had a sister named Brandy, a mum named Brenda. I never did meet her and his grandma jury on the island that always sent him money. Like when he needed money, she'd send him $500 or $1,000 or whatever she'd send them. He'd call her up and say, hey Grandma, I need some money. And she'd send it to him. I felt he was very close to his grandmother and his mother and sister. He was always like, protecting them. From what, I have no idea. But he didn't speak badly about his sister or his mum. Chris isn't working. He's attending school sporadically at best, but he loves spending lots of time cycling. He had a bike that he would go for long bike rides. He had really expensive bikes. He had no money to buy the bikes, but he always ended up with big expensive bikes and all the equipment that went with the bikes, like the fancy clothing and everything like that. So he'd go for bike rides for like 8 hours a day and then come back. He doesn't appear to have any friendships, but Tanya does recall a time when he took her to a house party. She describes the partygoers as a bunch of scary looking dudes. He took me to a house that was like, full of people doing drugs. And I'd never been around drugs in my life, so I got scared and I laughed. Tanya is still in Chris thrall, but not everyone in her circle appears to be as enamoured with her new boyfriend as she is. Every time we took them around the school or to like a school dance or whatever, everybody wanted to beat him up. For some reason, there was always a fight when Chris was there. I could never understand it because he didn't do anything while I was with him there. But everywhere he went, people wanted to beat him up. I didn't know what to make of it. I just couldn't understand why people always wanted to beat him up. I remember we went to a school dance and I lived within walking distance to the school, but we couldn't walk home because there was a group of about ten or 15 guys who were waiting outside the school for them to beat them up. So I had to call. Actually, we had jumping to my friend's car where we would have not swarmed and beat up, and our friend drove us home. I thought people were envious of the guys didn't like him because he was a tall looking guy. I don't know. I was very naive back then. I don't even know what I was thinking, to be honest. And then Chris takes things to the next level. We were just sitting on the bed downstairs watching a movie, and he started it. I'm like, no. And he's like, yeah, it's not going to hurt. I'm like, yes, it is. I don't want to. And then he just continued. Tanya has described herself as naive. She is also inexperienced sexually. He was the very, very first person that I ever had sex with. Like, I told him I was a virgin. And then when we had sex for the first time and I didn't bleed, then he really got angry. And then he called me a liar, and I wasn't a virgin, and he was mad for weeks after that, Tanya alleges Chris did whatever he wanted to do. So whenever he wanted it, he took it, whether I wanted it or not. Then before she knew it, Chris has moved in. He talked my parents into letting him live with us in the basement because his rent, the place that he was renting, was kicking him out. And again, me being naive and stupid, I asked my parents if he could move into the basement. They were under the impression that they were just helping these young kids out that had no family to help them. Tanya and Chris are together for almost a year. He's living in her family home. As time goes on, the relationship sours. There are a few moments that stand out from this period of time. A song came on the radio, and I turned it off because I didn't want to listen to that song. And he got up and he turned it back on. He's like, well, you know that this is our song. You want to listen to it? I'm like, no, I didn't know that that was our song. And then he slammed me up against the wall. I'm like, what are you doing? He tried to choke me. And then I got away from him and ran to my sister's bedroom and woke my sister up. Things are beginning to unravel in the relationship, but Chris convinces Tanya to accompany him on a short trip. It was like a hot weekend. We were there for a couple of days because we took a tent. It was a hot weekend, and we just walked down like, the desert. He was always trying to get me to go into the forest on trails and stuff like that. And I'm like, what are we doing? Where are we going? So it was like this really weird, creepy trip. And I'm like, I'm going home. I made sure that we stayed in the public area. I wasn't going into the forest with them. Tanya's parents, too, begin to feel uncomfortable about their daughter's boyfriend, the man now living in their home. Here's what Tanya tells me she learns from her mom, and she told me that when she was home alone with Chris, she was scared of him. She didn't like him in the house, her being alone in the house with him at all. Her father is no longer happy about Chris remaining in their home rent free. There was one time that my dad was trying to call his grandma to say, hey, what's going on? The kid needs money, their kid needs to move out or something. And Chris hurt him and went and ripped the phone out of the wall so nobody could call out of the house. And my dad wasn't a fighter, so he probably just tried to smooth over the situation. As the school year comes to an end, tanya is realizing she no longer wants Chris in her life. They've been fighting a lot, but she doesn't know how to end the relationship or how to get them out of their home. Cris has bought her a promise ring, but she doesn't wear it. A snapshot of her school yearbook tells the story. She didn't want him to sign her book. She didn't want the lasting memory of him. But then everybody was signing my yearbook at school at the end of the year, and he wanted to sign my yearbook. And I'm like, okay, well, you can sign my yearbook, but don't take up too much spots or space because I want other people to sign it. So he's like, oh, no, I won't. And then he goes and writes this whole entire, like, page of the book so I couldn't rip out the page at a later date. It's all on the hard covered book. And it's basically like he wanted to start a life with me. And he called himself that was his nickname, that he brought me up for himself, that he wanted me to call him. Chris writes about what a special young woman and girlfriend she is, congratulating her on her graduation and wishing that all her dreams come true. He writes, a best friend is someone who helps you when darkness comes your way. A best friend serves a purpose to fill the needy place best friends to the end. Love, stud Muffin. Tanya spends much of that summer away at cadet's camp. When she calls home to talk to her parents. She says Chris always picks up the phone and listens in so she can't have a private talk with them. When she does talk to Chris, they fight. That's all she tells him. She's not marrying him. She doesn't want to be with him. It's her feeling at the time that he's going to beat her up. She flees her home with her father. She recalls Chris packing up and leaving in a van. She alleges he rifled through the home before leaving, taking with him, among other things, her grandmother's wedding ring. Tanya moves on with a new boyfriend and a new job at Walmart. But Chris is not ready for it to be over. Once he was moved out, he would sit outside. I used to work at Walmart, so he'd sit outside on the bench and watch me work. And finally, my new boyfriend put a run to him.
Tanya's new boyfriend tells Chris to get lost and threatens violence should he return. So, yeah, he eventually disappeared and left. That night. After I speak with Tanya, she sends me a short, sad post script. She writes, one more thing I forgot to mention. He was always telling me I was ugly. No guy would ever want me. He was the best that would ever happen to me.
I'm piecing together Chris's life as best I can based on original source interviews with those who can inform my story with direct experiences. The next voice you'll hear belongs to another woman who was temporarily a roommate of Chris's. I'm a graphic designer. I have a really cute little dog that I love, and I like hiking and rock climbing and outdoor things, but mostly I work a lot these days. She, too, has asked that I hold her name in confidence, although, once again, she is not an anonymous source. I know who she is, and I believe her information is credible. Meet the woman we're calling Larissa. I met Christopher Adair at the climbing gym in Nanaimo called the Romper Room, and I'm an avid rock climber. I was, and I still am. So I met him there, and he told me about this outdoor program he was going into inferny called the Mast Program. And I was interested to the point that I said, I want to join too. I want to do this program. It sounded amazing. It was all a variety of outdoor skills, such as rafting and mountaineering, and climbing was part of it, and ski, snowboard, instructing. So I applied and I got in. It was a long time ago, but I'd probably exchange information with him, and we agreed to be roommates. Chris is now in his early 20s. It's after his relationship with Tanya has fallen apart. I'm curious about how Chris comes across in those initial interactions. When I met him at the climbing gym, he just looked and seemed like any other outdoor person. And it was very surprising to me that he turned out not to be a very nice person, because most outdoors people are good people. The majority of them are just really honest, really nice people that you can trust. And so I let my guard down with him very quickly. And also I was young and, you know, into exploring the world, and so I just trusted him. And I just thought, you know, this is an outdoorsy person that I can be friends with. And I just went into being a roommate with him. And I'd had some roommates before, but they were people I knew really well. So he was, I suppose, the first unknown new roommate. But at that age, I would just meet people and I would just hang out with them. And I didn't think too much about it. I was very free spirited. I press her for more details about Chris. Back then, he was just pretty normal, honestly. He had short, slightly bleached blonde hair, perhaps. He was quite slender. He had an interest in the outdoors. He told me he liked mountain biking. I don't really remember there being anything remarkable about him or anything unremarkable. He was just a pretty normal guy. So it was really the program that drew me to him. The mountain Adventure skills training program takes place at the College of the Rockies in Fernie, British Columbia. Here's how the program is described on the website. Imagine your stunning DC Rocky Mountain classroom, where you'll spend time hiking, rock climbing, mountaineering skiing, canoeing, whitewater rafting, while also earning the certifications and training that employers want. And it gets better. The program takes place in Ferni, a town Rolling Stone magazine once hailed as North America's coolest ski town. The place. Hot tub time machine was filmed. So I apply for the program and I get in, and I've kept in contact with him, and so I let him know. And it just made sense that we would be roommates because we're both moving out to Fernie together from Vancouver Island. It's a long way away. I've never been there before, and I don't know anyone else in the program. Money is pretty tight. I got a student loan, but I can't afford to rent a place on my own, so it makes sense to share. So I give Chris damage deposit and first month's rent, and he goes out to Fernie before me to look for a place for us to live. And he secures a place, and I moved out there and he's found us a place. Larissa's mom drives her out to Bernie and meets Chris. Her mom is impressed. She likes this young man who her daughter is sharing a place with. What's not to like? He is charming. He welcomes his new roomy and her mum with a gift of coffee and new mugs. A housewarming present that year will be memorable in part because of the disturbing interactions with her roommate Christopher Adair. But it's also memorable because of the snow. Fernie is known for its deep powder, and 1999 2000 is a record snowfall year. Larissa tells me she'd never experienced such great snow so much that chairlifts are actually buried and things like that. But she recalls an amazing ski season, and the group she's with, the general group, was like everyone was very passionate about the outdoors, and we're all pushing ourselves really hard. So it was just kind of like that young energy. It's shaping up to be an incredible experience. But what Larissa doesn't realize, at least not yet, is that her new friend, her roommate, isn't quite what he appears to be. And this is going to sound really weird, but the first thing that I noticed, that I started to notice something was wrong, is we're in the apartment and I noticed his socks. And I said, oh, I have the same socks. And then I was like, well, that's funny, I can't find mine right now. And they're very distinct socks because when you buy outdoor socks, they're wool and they're expensive. So he had stolen my socks. Like, what the hell? Who does that? This small, mundane thing is just the first of a cascading series of circumstances between Larissa and her new roomy. So what happened was he found a place, he took my money. He didn't give any of it to the landlord. He kept it. And he told the landlord that I was the one that wasn't paying. And he and I signed a lease agreement together for a year. So we're both on a lease agreement. I signed the paperwork. I don't know how he's a smooth talker. He managed to convince the landlady to have this place without paying the damage. Maybe he told her that I was going to pay it. I'd already paid it to him. He didn't give it to her. She doesn't know any of this when she moves in, begins the course, and settles into her new place with her new friend, and we start the program. I have my student loan, and it's barely enough to cover my year. Honestly, it's not really enough. But at the time, I have my full student loan, and I had some trouble getting it in. It took a little while. And he tells me at the start of the program, he says, all my outdoor gear has been shipped here and it's being held at the Greyhound and I can't get it because my student loan hasn't come in yet. And he doesn't actually, I don't think he asked me for the money. Maybe he did or maybe he didn't, but I was just like, oh, well, I understand that getting your student loan can be difficult and take some time because I've had some trouble with mine. And he's going to get his student loan anytime. I'll just lend you the money until your student loan comes in. And I don't know about the rent and the damage deposit at this point, I just still think we're friends and he's an honest person. So I lend him money to get his stuff out of the Greyhound, and that was the sum of three or $500, which is enough for a student. It's a. Lot. It's not a lot if you're going to get it back, but I didn't get it back. It's only been a few weeks of living together when she accompanies Chris and another friend on a climbing trip. The three of us went on a little climbing trip to the States, or we tried to, and we got turned around at the border. We were in the other guy's vehicle and tried to cross the border and we couldn't get through because Chris had a criminal record. He told us what's probably lies. He said, I had some BB gun incident where they thought I was using a real gun. And there was this immigration thing where I was trying to go to New Zealand. And he just told us some lies or some stories, or maybe it's the truth, I don't know. He told us some stuff that we believed at the time because we didn't know. And honestly, even still, when I try and cross at that border, it comes up that I tried to cross with a criminal. And I have to explain that I didn't know who he was and I didn't know anything about him. And I don't know what's on his record exactly, but he is a very long rap sheet. Even at that age, he had a rap sheet. Their program means they're outdoors in the mountains doing adventurous, even dangerous activities together. Activities where relying on each other means trusting someone with your life. And this has nothing to do with his fraudulence, but he almost killed me. Like, he did something that I could have died. It just has to do with not knowing enough and not being a climber. You might not understand, but basically he let up something on gear and put in an anchor that only had two pieces. When I got to the top, he clipped me into it. And normally you always clip yourself in. You don't ever let someone else clip you in. But he just didn't know enough and he clipped me in and he did it, and I let him because the anchor he had made was off to the side and I couldn't reach it from where I was, so he clipped me in. And you should always put in three pieces for a gear anchor, but he put in two and one of them blew. And now I'm on one piece and also that piece get shock loaded. So the whole thing was super unsafe and I just wanted down. So I made my own anchor and rappel down immediately and then stayed on the ground. I was, like, done for the day. And I was pretty shaken. So that could have been the end of my life right there. But honestly, that wasn't him being malicious or being a bad person. That was just him not knowing enough. I don't remember if he apologized or not. I went down and he didn't fight me over that. He was like, you want to go down. Cool. The financial stuff, he knew what he was doing there. He was very good at that. By now, she's beginning to have some doubts about her roommate. At the time when I first realized I was being ripped off, he had these notepad, and this is why I was still living with him. He had these notepads around the apartment from his grandma, and she's a real estate agent. Her name is Jerry Adair. And I called her because her phone number was right on the notepad. And I said, Your grandson is ripping me off. Can you help me? And she said, I'm sorry, dear, I can't help you. And she said, I can't help you. And Chris told me that you're paying for his school. Is that true? And she said, Chris has gotten a lot of money out of me over the years, but I didn't give it to him. That's what she said. And she sounded weary. She sounded like she's been dealing with for a very long time, and she's sick of it. And she wasn't mean to me, but she was cold. She was like your problem. I think he's been like that for a long time, just get what he wants out of people and not think twice about it. So not a nice person. Definitely not a nice person. And then the last straw. Just before the end of the month, he and some other people from my class, I don't remember who because I wasn't there, they did a little boys trip to Calgary, which is fairly close to Fernie, and he was arrested and held overnight in jail. I don't know what, four, but they just told me that he didn't come back because he was arrested. And I was like, that's it, I'm out. I don't know what this guy's deal is, but I'm not staying. So I wrote a letter to the landlady, and that's when I found out that he hadn't paid anything to her. And she was a nice enough lady, but she thinks I'm the bad one at this point, and she thinks I'm the one who hasn't paid. And so when I write her the letter and I'm moving out, she thinks it's me. So she's not particularly friendly to me because he's the one that got the place, he's the one that secured it. He's the one that has been talking to her. And I literally just met her. So I was moved out. By the time he got back from jail, overnight, I was out. So Larissa moves out, but she can't put Chris behind her just yet. I just need it out immediately. But I took all my personal belongings, but I still had some furniture in there. And then he got another roommate, and I couldn't get my furniture back, and I asked him for it. The program which she loves has just begun. She's in a cohort of about 20 people, and she has to see Chris regularly. And to everyone else in the class, he's a great guy. And now we're in school together. I'm seeing him every day. He owes me money for the greyhound. He owes the landlady, the rent and the damage deposit. And I want him to pay it because that's on my name and it's just not right. So I want him to pay that to her. I know he had it because I gave it to him. I'm a pretty nice person, and it's not my strong point is, like, being a tough guy. Although I've gotten better at it. I would hassle him about paying me back, and he never did. And I tried to tell my classmates about it and no one would believe me. They said, oh, but he's so nice. He gives me rides to school. And no one believed me at all. And he's still going to school. I'm seeing him every day. It's just infuriating. And on top of that, he's buying himself new stuff. He comes to school with new sunglasses that I know are like 100 and $5200. They're like these cool sunglasses with polarized lenses, and he just bought them. And I saw him all the time at school, right? So I tried to tell people. No one believed me. I kind of gave up, honestly. And that just goes to show what a master manipulator he was. He was able to let people's guard down and I don't know, I was able to figure him out fairly quickly. But he'd already gotten quite a bit of money out of me before I figured it out, right? So I tried to protect other people the best I could. As winter wears on, Chris decides to plan a New Year's Eve rave party.
Here's what Larissa says happens next. He organizes a rave party, and actually, I'll just tell you what kind of things he's into. Just important to know. But he's really into electronic music. He really likes that. He likes DJ music, and I do too. And that was another thing we had in common. I like that kind of music too, and I like dancing. Anyway, so he organizes a rave party, and he's going to fly in this DJ and he recruits a guy from our class to help him with organized this event. And so he rents out the community centre or some sort of community hall to host it. And he's flying in this DJ and he's selling tickets. And I tell this guy his name is Dave, I'm like, do not put money up. I was like, this guy is a con. I've already told you that. Don't do this. And he's like, Well, I think it'll be really cool. I'm like, okay, we'll do what you want, but just don't put money in. I don't know if he did or not. He never admitted if he did or not, but he helped him with the rave, and it seems like it's going to go on. And he sells tickets through the local snowboard store to super nice guys who'd moved there from somewhere else. Super nice guys, they're selling tickets through the store. Well, or the night before. He cancels it, but he's already picked up all the money from these tickets through the snowboard store. He's already come and collected all the money and now he cancels the rave. And these guys are new in town and they have a reputation to earn. So when people come back to the store and ask for their money back for the tickets, they had to pay them back. But Chris has the money, so he really does a number on them. And also a lot of people just didn't get their money back. And rave tickets, I'm not sure how much they were. Probably about $30. So when you times that by a lot of people, he's just done a town wide scam now. And I think for sure someone has to like, out this guy. But now he's stays in town for like another, I don't know how many months. And he just lays low in the same apartment where I live with him. And I found out from the landlady he never paid rent the whole time he was there and she couldn't get him out. I tracked down an owner of the snowboard store. They confirmed they confronted Chris. Things got heated, the police recalled, but nothing could be done to get the money back. The court carries on with Larissa, doing her best to steer clear of Chris. Not easy in their small class. We're all there, and I just avoid being directly with him. Obviously I would see him all the time, but I didn't engage with him. But, yeah, just continue doing the course for the most part. Just forget about him and just chalk it up to you as a shitty guy and you learn and you move on, right? Larissa's short time as Kris Rumi would have ripples in her life for a few years. She gets a call from a collection agent for $5,000 on the hook for rent at the apartment she and Chris shared. She successfully argues she didn't live there and doesn't have to pay. She thinks that's the end of it. And then a few years later, something quite strange happens. And I was at a house party and it's outdoorsy, nice people, and I see him across the room and I'm like, that piece of shit. And my blood boils when I see him. And I'm like then I'm like, okay, you know what? You're past that. You are just going to be civil and you're going to say hi. So I go over and I say, hi, Chris, how are you doing? And I just really pull myself together to just be civil and pleasant and just put it in the past. And he says to me, I'm not Chris. I'm Gary. I was like, what you're Chris. He's like, no, my name is Gary. I don't know what you're talking about. And I'm just floored because I'm like, no, that's him for sure. But his face is filled out a little bit. So when I knew him in fern, he was very skinny and he was a little bit more filled out. So I have a second of doubt. I'm really weirded out by this, so I can't say for sure if it was him or not, but I think it was and I think he had changed his identity or at least he was going by another name. So that's just something to think about, is that he probably is a slippery fish. Before I let her go, she wants to share a few details about the Christopher Adair she knew back then. He has a metal plate in his face from where he got punched. He told me it was over a girl, but he has a metal plate in his face. And honestly, when I saw him or Gary at the party, I wanted to take a metal detector to his face and just see, I knew it. I knew it was you. He also used to have an eyebrow ring on one side. I don't remember which side it was, but he had one. And that leaves a scar usually. And it was a ring appears. And what else about him? Oh, yeah, he used to be in cadets, so when I lived with him, he could not handle it. If you left one dirty fort beside the sink, he would lose it. He would get really mad about that. And he was very OCD about cleanliness and about dishes. And he told me it came from being in cadets. And when he was in cadets, they used to have to make their bed and it had to be so tight that you could bounce a quarter off of it. So they would make their bed and nail the sheets down and then sleep underneath them or sleep on the floor so they could keep their beds tight. So I don't know if that shaped who he is. A little bit like Tanya Larissa managed to move on and even to learn from her experience with Chris. I honestly don't think about him and I just kind of almost joke about it. I'm like, oh, I lived with a con artist once. It was kind of like just a life experience. That's what I call him, the con artist. That's what he is to me.
Ahead in part two of red jaguar, meet two of the police officers whose careers have crossed paths with Christopher Adair. You're also going to hear where he is now and why it's possible his past may yet catch up with him.
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