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Lisa had been missing for 80 days before the RCMP first attempted a ground search.
Lisa had been missing for 80 days before the RCMP first attempted a ground search.
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== Detail ==
== Detail ==


[[File:p20020902a.png|border|frame|right|alt=Chief Moses Martin organized search parties from Coombs to Tofino following leads garnered from tips, hunches and psychics.|''Vancouver Province'', September 2, 2002 (Jason Proctor){{P20020902}}]]
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[[File:ndn20020910b.png|border|frame|left|alt=Police will search for Lisa in 'the days ahead' … was delayed after Sept 1 shooting … investigators pulled off Lisa's case … arrested Sept 3|''Nanaimo Daily News'', September 10, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020910">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (Sep 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/326003823 "Tips spark new search for woman"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020910 ndn20020910]</span></ref>]]
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[[File:ndn20020725b2.png|border|frame|right|alt=police appear to be no closer… despite numerous tips. 'We've received well over 100 to 150 tips on the case.'|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 25, 2002 (Nelson Bennet)<ref name="ndn20020725">Nelson Bennet, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (July 25, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/326058761 "Lisa's kin follow psychic tip"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020725 ndn20020725]</span></ref>]]
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[[File:ndn20020918b.png|border|frame|left|alt=The search began around 9am and ended before noon.|''Nanaimo Daily News'', September 18, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020918">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (Sep 18, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50189336 "Grim Task: Police comb woods for Lisa Young"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020918 ndn20020918]</span></ref>]]
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Lisa was gone for 80 days before the 1st RCMP search.
Lisa was gone for 80 days before the 1st RCMP search.


In September 2002, RCMP performed their first ground search in the case, in the Biggs Road/Doumont Road area, based on a tip received in August 2002 (while their “Person of Interest” happened to be jailed (also on Biggs Road).<ref name="nw20150501">Allison Crowe, <span class='nw logo'></span>NWAC (May 1, 2015), ''[https://www.nwac.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/NWAC_Story_Telling_Lisa_Marie_Young.pdf "Story Telling - Lisa Marie Young (PDF)"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>nw20150501</span></ref>
In September 2002, RCMP performed their first ground search in the case, in the Biggs Road/Doumont Road area, based on a tip received in August 2002 (while their “Person of Interest” happened to be jailed (also on Biggs Road).{{NW20150501}}


<ref name="mm20180404"><span class='mm logo'></span>MMIWG Inquiry (Apr 4, 2018), ''[https://www.facebook.com/MMIWG/videos/566801617018643 "Vancouver Community MMIWG Hearings Day 1 - Martin Moses and Carla Moss"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>mm20180404</span></ref>
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The search involved nearly 20 RCMP members, reportedly doubling as a training session, beginning with instruction on the various states of decomposition of organic matter. Officers were onsite from 9:30 to Noon, including setup, teardown, and breaks.{{HOC20201008.png}}
The search involved nearly 20 RCMP members, reportedly doubling as a training session, beginning with instruction on the various states of decomposition of organic matter. Officers were onsite from 9:30 to Noon, including setup, teardown, and breaks.{{HOC20201008}}


Apparently unsatisfied with RCMP effort with the search, the family later searched the same area again.<ref name="ndn20021129">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (Nov 29, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/326184414 "Police wait for break in city murder cases ...Young family to search for Lisa"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20021129 ndn20021129]</span></ref>
Apparently unsatisfied with RCMP effort with the search, the family later searched the same area again.{{NDN20021129}}


The search was originally planned for September 2, but it was delayed due to the shooting of Rosella Centis, a Nanaimo woman who was shot in the afternoon, at a gas station, by her husband, witnessed by their daughter and caught on security cameras. The husband was arrested less than 48 hours later, yet police stated this was the reason for the search (RCMP's 1st for Lisa) being further delayed until September 18, which was 79 days after her disappearance.
The search was originally planned for September 2, but it was delayed due to the shooting of Rosella Centis, a Nanaimo woman who was shot in the afternoon, at a gas station, by her husband, witnessed by their daughter and caught on security cameras. The husband was arrested less than 48 hours later, yet police stated this was the reason for the search (RCMP's 1st for Lisa) being further delayed until September 18, which was 79 days after her disappearance.
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Neither search revealed any sign of Lisa.
Neither search revealed any sign of Lisa.


[[File:gn20170518a.png|border|frame|left|alt=RCMP say that a body believed to be that of missing Nanaimo teen Makayla Chang has been located|''Global News'', May 18, 2017 (Yuliya Talmazan)<ref name="gn20170518">Yuliya Talmazan, <span class='gn logo'></span>Global News (May 18, 2017), ''[https://globalnews.ca/news/3462489 "RCMP say that a body believed to be that of missing Nanaimo teen Makayla Chang has been located"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/gn20170518 gn20170518]</span></ref>]]
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Compared to police, Lisa's family & Tla-o-qui-aht Search & Rescue put roughly 150x as much time into searches.  Up to 30 volunteers drove 3 hours from Tofino to continue searches, weekly for about a year.
Compared to police, Lisa's family & Tla-o-qui-aht Search & Rescue put roughly 150x as much time into searches.  Up to 30 volunteers drove 3 hours from Tofino to continue searches, weekly for about a year.
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== See also ==
* [[Search was delayed 18 days due to RCMP prioritization of simple 2 day case]]
* [[RCMP's first search was focused more on officer training than on Lisa]]
* [[Re-enactment: "exhaustive search by Nanaimo RCMP"]]
* [[Tips]]
== Sources ==
== Sources ==
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[[Category:Lisa's List of Fifty]]
[[Category:Lisa's List of Fifty]]
[[Category:RCMP searches]]
[[Category:RCMP searches]]
[[Category:Tips]]
[[Category:RCMP delays]]

Revision as of 18:18, 12 May 2024

Summary

Lisa had been missing for 80 days before the RCMP first attempted a ground search.

Detail

Chief Moses Martin organized search parties from Coombs to Tofino following leads garnered from tips, hunches and psychics.
Vancouver Province, Sept 2, 2002 (Jason Proctor)[1]
Police will search for Lisa in the days ahead … was delayed after Sept 1 shooting … investigators pulled off Lisa's case … arrested Sept 3
Nanaimo Daily News, Sept 10, 2002 (Paul Walton)[2]
police appear to be no closer… despite numerous tips. We've received well over 100 to 150 tips on the case.
Nanaimo Daily News, July 25, 2002 (Nelson Bennett)[3]
The search began around 9am and ended before noon.
Nanaimo Daily News, Sept 18, 2002 (Paul Walton)[4]

Lisa was gone for 80 days before the 1st RCMP search.

In September 2002, RCMP performed their first ground search in the case, in the Biggs Road/Doumont Road area, based on a tip received in August 2002 (while their “Person of Interest” happened to be jailed (also on Biggs Road).[5]

[6]

The search involved nearly 20 RCMP members, reportedly doubling as a training session, beginning with instruction on the various states of decomposition of organic matter. Officers were onsite from 9:30 to Noon, including setup, teardown, and breaks.[7]

Apparently unsatisfied with RCMP effort with the search, the family later searched the same area again.[8]

The search was originally planned for September 2, but it was delayed due to the shooting of Rosella Centis, a Nanaimo woman who was shot in the afternoon, at a gas station, by her husband, witnessed by their daughter and caught on security cameras. The husband was arrested less than 48 hours later, yet police stated this was the reason for the search (RCMP's 1st for Lisa) being further delayed until September 18, which was 79 days after her disappearance.

Neither search revealed any sign of Lisa.

Makayla Chang's body located at Colliery Dam Park
Global News, May 18, 2017 (Yuliya Talmazan)[9]

Compared to police, Lisa's family & Tla-o-qui-aht Search & Rescue put roughly 150x as much time into searches. Up to 30 volunteers drove 3 hours from Tofino to continue searches, weekly for about a year.

RCMP received 150+ tips in the first month, yet none led to any official searches.


🛈 This isn't finished. This incomplete version of this page has been uploaded as a "placeholder".
There is more to this story, much of it available online with the lisamarieyoung.ca search page, or within Lisa's Wikipedia page, the 100's of media articles and dozens of privately-produced podcasts discussing Lisa's "disappearance".

See also

Sources

  1. Jason Proctor, Vancouver Province (Sep 2, 2002), Where is Lisa-Marie? p20020902
  2. Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Sep 10, 2002), Tips spark new search for woman ndn20020910
  3. Nelson Bennett, Nanaimo Daily News (July 25, 2002), Lisa's kin follow psychic tip ndn20020725
  4. Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Sep 18, 2002), Grim Task: Police comb woods for Lisa Young ndn20020918
  5. Allison Crowe, Native Women's Association of Canada (May 1, 2015), Story Telling — Lisa Marie Young nw20150501
  6. MMIWG Inquiry (Apr 4, 2018), Vancouver Community MMIWG Hearings Day 1 - Martin Moses and Carla Moss (Facebook video) mm20180404
  7. MP Paul Manly, Parliament, Ottawa (Oct 8, 2020), House of Commons Debate #12 - October 8, 2020 (43-2) at 1525 hoc20201008
  8. Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Nov 29, 2002), Police wait for break in city murder cases ...Young family to search for Lisa ndn20021129
  9. Yuliya Talmazan, Global News (May 18, 2017), RCMP say that a body believed to be that of missing Nanaimo teen Makayla Chang has been located gn20170518