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After this mistake was brought to the attention of investigators, it was not corrected. Instead, a second date was added, also incorrect.
After this mistake was brought to the attention of investigators, it was not corrected. Instead, a second date was added, also incorrect.


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      <div style="font-size:90%; max-width:70ch; margin-bottom:10px; display:inline-block;">While individual issues may seem trivial on their own, <b>together, they demonstrate the overall carelessness and apathy</b> with which the investigation was handled.</div>
      <div style="font-size:110%;">&rarr; See the overview of [[:Category:RCMP dossier inaccuracies | RCMP dossier inaccuracies]].</div>
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== Details ==
== Details ==
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Reports and first-hand accounts are clear that Lisa was last seen on July 1<sup>st</sup>, 2002:
Reports and first-hand accounts are clear that Lisa was last seen on July 1<sup>st</sup>, 2002:


* [[Lisa last seen by friends | Lisa was last seen by her friends]] on '''July 1st, 2002 at 3:30am'''.{{KP20180712}}<ref name="fmt20020710"><span class="fmt logo"></span>Fort McMurray Today (July 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/101196997 "Foul play suspected in missing B.C. woman"]'' <span style="font-size:66%;">[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/fmt20020710 fmt20020710]</span></ref>{{Hand2Nd}}{{AVT20020711}}
* [[Lisa last seen by friends | Lisa was last seen by her friends]] on '''July 1st, 2002 at 3:30am'''.{{KP20180712}}{{FMT20020710}}{{Hand2}}{{AVT20020711}}


* [[Lisa's last phone call]] was to her friend Dallas at about '''4:00am'''.<br>
* [[Lisa's last phone call]] was to her friend Dallas at about '''4:00am'''.<br>
:''"He won't bring me back, I'm getting pissed off."''{{CN20180326}}{{CN20201217}}<ref name="ic20200522-103">Laura Palmer, <span class="ic logo"></span>Island Crime (May 22, 2020), ''[https://island-crime.simplecast.com/episodes/s1e3-searching-for-lisa "Island Crime s1e03: Searching for Lisa"]'' <span style="font-size:66%;">[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ic20200522-103 ic20200522-103]</span></ref>
:''"He won't bring me back, I'm getting pissed off."''{{CN20180326}}{{CN20201217}}{{IC20200522-103}}


* [[Lisa's last text message]] was to a friend around '''4:30am'''.<br>
* [[Lisa's last text message]] was to a friend around '''4:30am'''.<br>
:''"Come get me, they won't let me leave."''{{KP20180712}}<ref name="hss20220203">Denise Titian, <span class="hss logo"></span>Ha-Shilth-Sa (Feb 3, 2022), ''[https://hashilthsa.com/news/2022-02-03/anonymous-donor-posts-50000-reward-information-lisa-marie-young "Anonymous donor posts $50,000 reward for information on Lisa Marie Young"]'' <span style="font-size:66%;">[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/hss20220203 hss20220203]</span></ref><ref name="nnn20220626">Ian Holmes, <span class="nnn logo"></span>NanaimoNewsNow (June 26, 2022), ''[https://nanaimonewsnow.com/2022/06/26/disappearance-of-nanaimo-woman-approaches-20-years-as-quest-for-answers-continues "Disappearance of Nanaimo woman approaches 20yrs as quest for answers continues"]'' <span style="font-size:66%;">[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/nnn20220626 nnn20220626]</span></ref><ref name="ctv20220627">Andrew Garland, <span class='ctv logo'></span>CTV News (June 27, 2022), ''[https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/annual-march-for-lisa-marie-young-marks-20-years-since-nanaimo-woman-s-disappearance-1.5965163 "Annual march for Lisa Marie Young marks 20 years since Nanaimo woman's disappearance"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ctv20220627 ctv20220627]</span></ref><ref name="hss20210626">Eric Plummer, <span class="hss logo"></span>Ha-Shilth-Sa (June 26, 2021), ''[https://hashilthsa.com/news/2021-06-26/bring-peace-lisa-police-continue-investigation-using-new-techniques "'Bring peace to Lisa': Police continue with investigation using new techniques"]'' <span style="font-size:66%;">[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/hss20210626 hss20210626]</span></ref><ref name="hss20130613"><span class="hss logo"></span>Ha-Shilth-Sa (June 13, 2013), ''[https://issuu.com/hashilthsa/docs/08_june_13__2013/9 "Walk to remember Lisa Marie Young"]'' <span style="font-size:66%;">[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/hss20130613 hss20130613]</span></ref>{{TS20160806}}
:''"Come get me, they won't let me leave."''{{KP20180712}}{{HSS20220203}}{{NNN20220626}}{{CTV20220627}}{{HSS20210626}}{{HSS20130613}}{{TS20160806}}
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[[File:kp20180712b.png|border|frame|right|alt=At 4:30am, Lisa texted Dallas, "Come get me, they won't let me leave." That was the last time anyone heard from Lisa.|''Kawartha Promoter'', July 12, 2018 (Glenna Burns){{KP20180712}}]]
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=== Incorrect date of disappearance ===
=== Incorrect date of disappearance ===


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| style="text-align:left;" | Lisa arrived at The Jungle Cabaret on '''June 30, 2002''' at 11:45pm.
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== See also ==
== See also ==


* &#9654; '''Watch the video''' ''"LISA: THE RCMP's 'OFFICIAL' DOSSIER"'' on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO2-OH3sLRw YouTube] or [[:File:Lisa-dossier.mp4 | locally]]
* &#9654; ''Watch the video'' ''"LISA: THE RCMP's 'OFFICIAL' DOSSIER"'' on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO2-OH3sLRw YouTube] or [[:File:Lisa-dossier.mp4 | locally]]
* [[:Category:RCMP_dossier_inaccuracies#Overview:_RCMP_Dossier_Inaccuracies | Overview: RCMP Dossier Inaccuracies]]
* [[:Category:RCMP_dossier_inaccuracies#Overview:_RCMP_Dossier_Inaccuracies | Overview: RCMP Dossier Inaccuracies]]
* [https://www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2013000120&id=0 RCMP Dossier: Lisa Marie Young] <small>(current/"live" version)</small>
* [https://www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2013000120&id=0 RCMP Dossier: Lisa Marie Young] <small>(current/"live" version)</small>
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Latest revision as of 05:45, 30 August 2024

Summary

On the RCMP's official dossier for Lisa's case, the "missing since" date has been listed incorrectly since the beginning.

After this mistake was brought to the attention of investigators, it was not corrected. Instead, a second date was added, also incorrect.

Details Matter!
While individual issues may seem trivial on their own, together, they are demonstrative of the overall carelessness and apathy with which the investigation was handled.
→ See the overview of RCMP dossier inaccuracies.

Details

Reports and first-hand accounts are clear that Lisa was last seen on July 1st, 2002:

"He won't bring me back, I'm getting pissed off."[5][6][7]
"Come get me, they won't let me leave."[1][8][9][10][11][12][13]


clip from official RCMP dossier for Lisa Marie Young
Clipping from the RCMP Dossier for Lisa Marie Young (Archived Dec 2022)[14]
At 4:30am, Lisa texted Dallas, "Come get me, they won't let me leave." That was the last time anyone heard from Lisa.
Kawartha Promoter, July 12, 2018 (Glenna Burns)[1]
🛈 This isn't finished. This incomplete version of this page has been uploaded as a "placeholder".
There is more to this story, much of it available online with the lisamarieyoung.ca search page, or within Lisa's Wikipedia page, the 100's of media articles and dozens of privately-produced podcasts discussing Lisa's "disappearance".


Incorrect date of disappearance

The dossier has always misreported the date on which Lisa was last seen:[15]

WRONG: "In the early morning hours of June 30, 2002, Lisa Young was seen for the last time…"
CORRECT: Lisa was seen and heard from for the last time on July 1, 2002.


Additional error added in 2022

In 2022, an additional date was added to the dossier — also incorrect:[14]

WRONG: "On the night of June 29, Lisa travelled to a local bar…"
CORRECT: Lisa arrived at The Jungle Cabaret on June 30, 2002 at 11:45pm.


Comparison to dates in re-enactment

The Crime Stoppers video re-enactment produced in 2009 about Lisa's disappearance — which was based on information provided by Nanaimo RCMP investigators — also contained incorrect/misleading details, but ironically, the dates were one of the few details reported accurately in the video.[16]

The dossier's dates remain uncorrected despite investigators' ability to update it at any time. They have, however, recently added further misinformation.[14]

See also

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Glenna Burns, Kawartha Promoter (July 12, 2018), On a healing journey (source)
  2. ↑ Fort McMurray Today (July 10, 2002), Foul play suspected in missing B.C. woman (source)
  3. ↑ This information was provided directly to the author by a credible, reliable source who was present. ✎ Sworn declaration can be provided as needed.
  4. ↑ Alberni Valley Times (July 11, 2002), Police suspect foul play (source)
  5. ↑ Andy Neal, CHEK News (Mar 26, 2018), Man dies after being struck by a vehicle in Nanaimo Sunday (source)
  6. ↑ Kendall Hanson, CHEK News (Dec 17, 2020), Nanaimo RCMP conduct new searches in nearly two-decade-old case (source)
  7. ↑ Laura Palmer, Island Crime podcast (May 22, 2020), s1e03: Searching for Lisa (source)
  8. ↑ Denise Titian, Ha-Shilth-Sa (Feb 3, 2022), Anonymous donor posts $50,000 reward for information on Lisa Marie Young (source)
  9. ↑ Ian Holmes, NanaimoNewsNow (June 26, 2022), Disappearance of Nanaimo woman approaches 20 years as quest for answers continues (source)
  10. ↑ Andrew Garland, CTV News (June 27, 2022), Annual march for Lisa Marie Young marks 20 years since Nanaimo woman's disappearance (source)
  11. ↑ Eric Plummer, Ha-Shilth-Sa (June 26, 2021), 'Bring peace to Lisa': Police continue with investigation using new techniques (source)
  12. ↑ Ha-Shilth-Sa (June 13, 2013), Walk to remember Lisa Marie Young (source)
  13. ↑ Verity Stevenson, Toronto Star (Aug 6, 2016), Inquiry brings back memories of Nanaimo woman missing since 2002 (source)
  14. ↑ 14.0 14.1 14.2 Govt of Canada, RCMP (Dec 20, 2022),"Official Dossier: Lisa Marie Young" — ARCHIVE.ORG DEC 2022
  15. ↑ Govt of Canada, RCMP (Jun 26, 2019),"Official Dossier: Lisa Marie Young" — ARCHIVE.ORG JUN 2019
  16. ↑ Shaw TV, YouTube (May 15, 2009), Lisa Marie Young - Crime Stoppers (video) (source)
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