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== Summary ==
== Summary ==


When Lisa's mother first called Nanaimo RCMP to report Lisa's disappearance, '''she was told that a file could not be opened for 48 hours''', so she could call back thenHowever, <u>no</u> police force in Canada has ever had a "waiting period" in relation to reports of missing persons, and, in fact, the first 72 hours are, in fact, the '''most crucial''' to a missing persons investigation.
When Lisa's mother first called Nanaimo RCMP to report Lisa's disappearance, '''she was told that a file could not be opened for 48 hours''', and was advised to call back in two daysThis is despite the fact that <u>no</u> police force in Canada has <u>ever</u> had a "waiting period" before a "missing persons" report can be filed, and, in fact, research clearly shows that the first 72 hours are the '''''most'' crucial''' to a missing persons investigation.


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== Detail ==
 
=== Parent's efforts before calling RCMP ===
 
Lisa's parents had reason to be concerned; it was not without due diligence that the decision was made to contact the RCMP.
 
[[File:ndn20020725d.png|border|frame|left|alt=…about to move into a new apartment|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 25, 2002 (Nelson Bennet)<ref name="ndn20020725">Nelson Bennet, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 25, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/326058761 "Lisa's kin follow psychic tip"]''</ref>]]
 
[[File:tc20040404i.png|border|frame|right|alt=...her father was to help her move into a new apartment the day she went missing|''Times Colonist'', April 4, 2004 (Jim Gibson)<ref name="tc20040404">Jim Gibson, Times Colonist (Apr 4, 2004), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/509476097 "The case Nanaimo can't forget"]''</ref>]]
 
'''Lisa failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father''',<ref name="ndn20020704">Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 4, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39030175 "Parents fear daughter the victim of foul play"]''</ref> who was going to help her move into her new apartment using his Purolator Courier truck.<ref name="ndn20020725"/><ref name="tc20040404"/> The move was something Lisa had been looking forward to, and she had pre-paid a deposit on her new unit. As Lisa was normally extremely reliable, her parents were immediately very concerned.<ref name="ndn20020710">Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704917 "Police fear local met with foul play"]''</ref><ref name="cd20210505">Jolene Rudisuela, Capital Daily (May 5, 2021), ''[https://www.capitaldaily.ca/news/bc-missing-person-red-dress "More people go missing in BC than anywhere else in Canada. No one knows why"]''</ref><ref name="fmt20020710">Fort McMurray Today (Jul 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/101196997 "Foul play suspected in missing B.C. woman"]''</ref>


== Detail ==
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[[File:ndn20020704e.png|border|frame|left|alt=Efforts to call her cellphone since then have been met only with voice mail.|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 4, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020704"/>]]
 
[[File:ndn20020709b.png|border|frame|right|alt=they were very close with their daughter, and it was unlike her to not be in touch|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 9, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020709">Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 9, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/326041248 "RCMP keep searching for woman"]''</ref>]]
 
'''Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail'''.<ref name="ndn20020704"/> This added concern as Lisa had purchased the cellphone proactively/primarily so that her parents could always contact her (as she'd always been very close to her parents).<ref name="ndn20020709"/> Lisa always carefully ensured the phone was charged, and she had never powered it off.<ref name="hss20190624"/>
 
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[[File:nw20150501b.png|border|frame|left|alt=She called every number in [Lisa's phone book]|''NWAC'', May 1, 2015 (Allison Crowe)<ref name="nw20150501">Allison Crowe, NWAC (May 1, 2015), ''[https://www.nwac.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/NWAC_Story_Telling_Lisa_Marie_Young.pdf "Story Telling - Lisa Marie Young (PDF)"]''</ref>]]
 
[[File:ndn20020712a.png|border|frame|right|alt=maroon or red four-door Jaguar|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 12, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020712">Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 12, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704933 "Woman's disappearance leaves friends perplexed ...rumours unfounded"]''</ref>]]
 
'''Lisa's parents retrieved her address book and called ''"all"'' of her many friends.'''<ref name="nw20150501"/> Multiple friends said they saw her the previous night, in conversation outside the bar with the unknown male driver of a maroon Jaguar.<ref name="ndn20020712"/> Others reported seeing her at a houseparty on Nanaimo Lakes Road<ref name="ndn20030529">Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (May 29, 2003), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50190923 "When sadness turns to anger"]''</ref>, or another in the Cathers Lake area.<ref name="vs20110226">Vancouver Sun (Feb 26, 2011), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/497701497 "Nanaimo RCMP appeal for help"]''</ref> But nobody knew where Lisa was now.<ref name="hoc20201008"/>
 
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=== Contacted Police ===
 
[[File:ndn20020710a.png|border|frame|right|alt=[Lisa's parents] called police at 11:30am on July 1.|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 10, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020710">Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704917 "Police fear local met with foul play"]''</ref>]]
 
[[File:nw20150501c.png|border|frame|left|alt=Frantic, Don and Joanne decided to call the police|''NWAC'', May 1, 2015 (Allison Crowe)<ref name="nw20150501">Allison Crowe, NWAC (May 1, 2015), ''[https://www.nwac.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/NWAC_Story_Telling_Lisa_Marie_Young.pdf "Story Telling - Lisa Marie Young (PDF)"]''</ref>]]


[[File:p20020902c.png|border|frame|right|alt=Lisa Marie had lined up friends to help her move into a new apartment.|''Vancouver Province'', September 2, 2002 (Jason Proctor)<ref name="p20020902">Jason Proctor, Province (Sep 2, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704952 "Where is Lisa-Marie?"]''</ref>]]
By this point, Lisa's parents were frantic.


On Monday, July 1<sup>st</sup>, 2002 (Canada Day) at about 11:30am<ref name="ndn20020710"/>, Joanne Young (Lisa's mother) called the Nanaimo RCMP detachment to report that her daughter was missing.<ref name="nw20150501"/>


=== Parent's diligence prior to calling ===
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'''Lisa failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father''', who was going to help her move into her new apartment using his Purolator Courier truck. The move was something Lisa had been looking forward to, and she had prepaid a deposit on her new unit. As Lisa was normally extremely reliable, her parents were immediately very concerned.<ref name="ndn20020710">Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704917 "Police fear local met with foul play"]''</ref><ref name="p20020902"/>
=== Report refused by RCMP ===


[[File:hss20190624b.png|border|frame|left|alt=[RCMP] said they needed her to be gone 48 hours [before a report could be filed]|''Ha-Shilth-Sa'', June 24, 2019 (Eric Plummer)<ref name="hss20190624">Eric Plummer, Ha-Shilth-Sa (Jun 24, 2019), ''[https://hashilthsa.com/news/2019-06-24/legacy-lisa-marie-young-hang-tofino "Legacy of Lisa Marie Young to hang in Tofino"]''</ref>]]
[[File:hss20190624b.png|border|frame|left|alt=[RCMP] said they needed her to be gone 48 hours [before a report could be filed]|''Ha-Shilth-Sa'', June 24, 2019 (Eric Plummer)<ref name="hss20190624">Eric Plummer, Ha-Shilth-Sa (Jun 24, 2019), ''[https://hashilthsa.com/news/2019-06-24/legacy-lisa-marie-young-hang-tofino "Legacy of Lisa Marie Young to hang in Tofino"]''</ref>]]
'''Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail'''. This added concern as Lisa had purchased the cellphone proactively/primarily so that her parents could always reach her (as she'd always been very close to her parents). Lisa always carefully ensured the phone was charged, and she had never powered it off.<ref name="hss20190624"/>


[[File:hoc20201008_manly_48hours.png|300px|thumb|right|border|frame|MP Paul Manly, ''House of Commons'', Dec 8, 2020<ref name="hoc20201008">Paul Manly, House of Commons (Oct 8, 2020), ''[https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/43-2/house/sitting-12/hansard#Int-10946048 "Debates (Hansard) No. 12 (43-2) at 1525"]''</ref>]]
[[File:hoc20201008_manly_48hours.png|300px|thumb|right|border|frame|alt=they said just give it 48 hours|MP Paul Manly, ''House of Commons'', Dec 8, 2020<ref name="hoc20201008">Paul Manly, House of Commons (Oct 8, 2020), ''[https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/43-2/house/sitting-12/hansard#Int-10946048 "Debates (Hansard) No. 12 (43-2) at 1525"]''</ref>]]
'''Lisa's parents retrieved her address book and called ''"all"'' of Lisa's many friends.''' Multiple friends said they saw her the previous night, in conversation outside the bar with the unknown male driver of a maroon Jaguar. Others reported seeing her at a houseparty on Nanaimo Lakes Road, or another in the Cathers Lake area. But nobody knew where Lisa was now.<ref name="hoc20201008"/>
 
RCMP told Lisa's mother that '''''a report could not be filed until 48 hours after Lisa was last seen''''', so she should call back at that point.<ref name="hss20190624"/><ref name="hoc20201008"/><ref name="ndn20020704"/>


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=== Report refused ===


[[File:ccima_48_hour_myth.png|left|border|frame|Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, ''"Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"''<ref name="mp20121201">Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, ''[https://missingpersonsinformation.ca/resources/quick-facts-about-reporting-a-missing-adult-in-canada/ "Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"]''</ref>]]
=== Policy & Research ===


On Canada Day 2002 at about 11:30am, Joanne Young called the Nanaimo RCMP to report that her daughter was missing, but was told that '''''a report could not be filed until 48 hours after Lisa was last seen''''', so she should call back at that point.<ref name="hoc20201008"/><ref name="ndn20020704">Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 4, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39030175 "Parents fear daughter the victim of foul play"]''</ref>
[[File:abc20181008a.png|thumb|180px|border|frame|right|alt=the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts|''ABC News'', October 8, 2018 (Julia Jacobo)<ref name="abc20181008">Julia Jacobo, ABC News (October 8, 2018), ''[https://abcnews.go.com/US/72-hours-missing-persons-investigation-critical-criminology-experts/story?id=58292638 "Why the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts"]''</ref>]]


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While once a common myth, ''<u>no</u> police force in Canada has '''ever''' had a policy requiring a delay before submission of a "missing persons" report.<ref name="mp20121201">Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, ''[https://missingpersonsinformation.ca/resources/quick-facts-about-reporting-a-missing-adult-in-canada/ "Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"]''</ref>
=== Policy ===


[[File:abc20181008a.png|thumb|250px|border|frame|right|alt=the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts|''ABC News'', October 8, 2018 (Julia Jacobo)<ref name="abc20181008">Julia Jacobo, ABC News (October 8, 2018), ''[https://abcnews.go.com/US/72-hours-missing-persons-investigation-critical-criminology-experts/story?id=58292638 "Why the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts"]''</ref>]]
Research shows that the first 72 hours are considered to be the ''most'' critical time frame of a "missing persons" investigation.<ref name="abc20181008"/><ref>NIWRC, ''[https://www.niwrc.org/resources/brochure/when-loved-one-goes-missing-quick-reference-guide-what-do-first-72-hours "Quick Reference Guide for What to Do in the First 72 Hours"]''</ref>


While once a common myth, ''this has '''never''' been an official policy of any police force in Canada''.<ref name="mp20121201" />
[[File:ccima_48_hour_myth.png|left|180px|border|frame|Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, ''"Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"''<ref name="mp20121201"/>]]


Research shows that the first 72 hours are considered to be the ''most'' critical timeframe of a "missing persons" investigation.<ref name="abc20181008"/>
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== Sources ==
== Sources ==
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Revision as of 15:28, 10 October 2023

Summary

When Lisa's mother first called Nanaimo RCMP to report Lisa's disappearance, she was told that a file could not be opened for 48 hours, and was advised to call back in two days. This is despite the fact that no police force in Canada has ever had a "waiting period" before a "missing persons" report can be filed, and, in fact, research clearly shows that the first 72 hours are the most crucial to a missing persons investigation.

Detail

Parent's efforts before calling RCMP

Lisa's parents had reason to be concerned; it was not without due diligence that the decision was made to contact the RCMP.

…about to move into a new apartment
Nanaimo Daily News, July 25, 2002 (Nelson Bennet)[1]
...her father was to help her move into a new apartment the day she went missing
Times Colonist, April 4, 2004 (Jim Gibson)[2]

Lisa failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father,[3] who was going to help her move into her new apartment using his Purolator Courier truck.[1][2] The move was something Lisa had been looking forward to, and she had pre-paid a deposit on her new unit. As Lisa was normally extremely reliable, her parents were immediately very concerned.[4][5][6]


Efforts to call her cellphone since then have been met only with voice mail.
Nanaimo Daily News, July 4, 2002 (Paul Walton)[3]
they were very close with their daughter, and it was unlike her to not be in touch
Nanaimo Daily News, July 9, 2002 (Paul Walton)[7]

Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail.[3] This added concern as Lisa had purchased the cellphone proactively/primarily so that her parents could always contact her (as she'd always been very close to her parents).[7] Lisa always carefully ensured the phone was charged, and she had never powered it off.[8]


She called every number in [Lisa's phone book]
NWAC, May 1, 2015 (Allison Crowe)[9]
maroon or red four-door Jaguar
Nanaimo Daily News, July 12, 2002 (Paul Walton)[10]

Lisa's parents retrieved her address book and called "all" of her many friends.[9] Multiple friends said they saw her the previous night, in conversation outside the bar with the unknown male driver of a maroon Jaguar.[10] Others reported seeing her at a houseparty on Nanaimo Lakes Road[11], or another in the Cathers Lake area.[12] But nobody knew where Lisa was now.[13]


Contacted Police

[Lisa's parents] called police at 11:30am on July 1.
Nanaimo Daily News, July 10, 2002 (Paul Walton)[4]
Frantic, Don and Joanne decided to call the police
NWAC, May 1, 2015 (Allison Crowe)[9]

By this point, Lisa's parents were frantic.

On Monday, July 1st, 2002 (Canada Day) at about 11:30am[4], Joanne Young (Lisa's mother) called the Nanaimo RCMP detachment to report that her daughter was missing.[9]


Report refused by RCMP

[RCMP] said they needed her to be gone 48 hours [before a report could be filed]
Ha-Shilth-Sa, June 24, 2019 (Eric Plummer)[8]
they said just give it 48 hours
MP Paul Manly, House of Commons, Dec 8, 2020[13]

RCMP told Lisa's mother that a report could not be filed until 48 hours after Lisa was last seen, so she should call back at that point.[8][13][3]


Policy & Research

the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts
ABC News, October 8, 2018 (Julia Jacobo)[14]

While once a common myth, no police force in Canada has ever had a policy requiring a delay before submission of a "missing persons" report.[15]

Research shows that the first 72 hours are considered to be the most critical time frame of a "missing persons" investigation.[14][16]

Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, "Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"[15]


Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Nelson Bennet, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 25, 2002), "Lisa's kin follow psychic tip"
  2. 2.0 2.1 Jim Gibson, Times Colonist (Apr 4, 2004), "The case Nanaimo can't forget"
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 4, 2002), "Parents fear daughter the victim of foul play"
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 10, 2002), "Police fear local met with foul play"
  5. Jolene Rudisuela, Capital Daily (May 5, 2021), "More people go missing in BC than anywhere else in Canada. No one knows why"
  6. Fort McMurray Today (Jul 10, 2002), "Foul play suspected in missing B.C. woman"
  7. 7.0 7.1 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 9, 2002), "RCMP keep searching for woman"
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 Eric Plummer, Ha-Shilth-Sa (Jun 24, 2019), "Legacy of Lisa Marie Young to hang in Tofino"
  9. 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 Allison Crowe, NWAC (May 1, 2015), "Story Telling - Lisa Marie Young (PDF)"
  10. 10.0 10.1 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (Jul 12, 2002), "Woman's disappearance leaves friends perplexed ...rumours unfounded"
  11. Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (May 29, 2003), "When sadness turns to anger"
  12. Vancouver Sun (Feb 26, 2011), "Nanaimo RCMP appeal for help"
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 Paul Manly, House of Commons (Oct 8, 2020), "Debates (Hansard) No. 12 (43-2) at 1525"
  14. 14.0 14.1 Julia Jacobo, ABC News (October 8, 2018), "Why the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts"
  15. 15.0 15.1 Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, "Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"
  16. NIWRC, "Quick Reference Guide for What to Do in the First 72 Hours"