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Lisa's parents had reason to be concerned; it was not without due diligence that the decision was made to contact the RCMP.
Lisa's parents had reason to be concerned; it was not without due diligence that the decision was made to contact the RCMP.


[[File:ndn20020725d.png|border|frame|left|alt=…about to move into a new apartment|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 25, 2002 (Nelson Bennet)<ref name="ndn20020725">Nelson Bennet, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (July 25, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/326058761 "Lisa's kin follow psychic tip"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020725 ndn20020725]</span></ref>|class=notpageimage]]
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[[File:tc20040404i.png|border|frame|right|alt=...her father was to help her move into a new apartment the day she went missing|''Times Colonist'', April 4, 2004 (Jim Gibson)<ref name="tc20040404">Jim Gibson, <span class='tc logo'></span>Times Colonist (Apr 4, 2004), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/509476097 "The case Nanaimo can't forget"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/tc20040404 tc20040404]</span></ref>|class=notpageimage]]
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'''Lisa had failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father''',<ref name="ndn20020704">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (July 4, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39030175 "Parents fear daughter the victim of foul play"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020704 ndn20020704]</span></ref> who was going to help her move into her new apartment using his [[Purolator_Courier|Purolator Courier]] truck.<ref name="ndn20020725"/><ref name="tc20040404"/> The move was something Lisa had been looking forward to,<ref name="p20020902">Jason Proctor, <span class='p logo'></span>Province (Sep 2, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704952 "Where is Lisa-Marie?"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/p20020902 p20020902]</span></ref> and she had pre-paid a deposit on her new unit. As Lisa was normally extremely reliable, her parents were immediately very concerned.<ref name="ndn20020710">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (July 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704917 "Police fear local met with foul play"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020710 ndn20020710]</span></ref><ref name="cd20210505">Jolene Rudisuela, <span class='cd logo'></span>Capital Daily (May 5, 2021), ''[https://www.capitaldaily.ca/news/bc-missing-person-red-dress "More people go missing in BC than anywhere else in Canada. No one knows why"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>cd20210505</span></ref><ref name="fmt20020710"><span class='fmt logo'></span>Fort McMurray Today (July 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/101196997 "Foul play suspected in missing B.C. woman"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/fmt20020710 fmt20020710]</span></ref>
'''Lisa had failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father''',{{NDN20020704}} who was going to help her move into her new apartment using his [[Purolator Courier]] truck.{{NDN20020725}}{{TC20040404}} The move was something Lisa had been looking forward to,{{P20020902}} and she had pre-paid a deposit on her new unit. As Lisa was normally extremely reliable, her parents were immediately very concerned.{{NDN20020710}}{{CD20210505}}{{FMT20020710}}


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[[File:ndn20020704e.png|border|frame|left|alt=Efforts to call her cellphone since then have been met only with voice mail.|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 4, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020704">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (July 4, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/39030175 "Parents fear daughter the victim of foul play"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020704 ndn20020704]</span></ref>|class=notpageimage]]
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[[File:ndn20020709b.png|border|frame|right|alt=they were very close with their daughter, and it was unlike her to not be in touch|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 9, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020709">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (July 9, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/326041248 "RCMP keep searching for woman"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020709 ndn20020709]</span></ref>|class=notpageimage]]
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'''Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail'''.<ref name="ndn20020704"/> This added concern as Lisa had purchased the cellphone proactively/primarily so that her parents could always contact her (as she'd always been very close to her parents).<ref name="ndn20020709"/> Lisa always carefully ensured the phone was charged, and she had never powered it off.<ref name="hss20190624"/>
'''Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail'''.{{NDN20020704}} This added concern as Lisa had purchased the cellphone proactively/primarily so that her parents could always contact her (as she'd always been very close to her parents).{{NDN20020709}} Lisa always carefully ensured the phone was charged, and she had never powered it off.{{HSS20190624}}


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[[File:nw20150501b.png|border|frame|left|alt=She called every number in [Lisa's phone book]|''NWAC'', May 1, 2015 (Allison Crowe)<ref name="nw20150501">Allison Crowe, <span class='nw logo'></span>NWAC (May 1, 2015), ''[https://www.nwac.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/NWAC_Story_Telling_Lisa_Marie_Young.pdf "Story Telling - Lisa Marie Young (PDF)"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>nw20150501</span></ref>|class=notpageimage]]
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[[File:ndn20020712a.png|border|frame|right|alt=maroon or red four-door Jaguar|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 12, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020712">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (July 12, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704933 "Woman's disappearance leaves friends perplexed ...rumours unfounded"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020712 ndn20020712]</span></ref>|class=notpageimage]]
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'''Lisa's parents retrieved her address book and called ''"all"'' of her many friends.'''<ref name="nw20150501"/> Multiple friends said they saw her the previous night, in conversation outside the bar with the unknown male driver of a maroon Jaguar.<ref name="ndn20020712"/> Others reported seeing her at a houseparty on Nanaimo Lakes Road<ref name="ndn20030529">Paul Walton,<span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (May 29, 2003), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50190923 "When sadness turns to anger"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20030529 ndn20030529]</span></ref>, or leaving a second party around the Cathers Lake area, in the maroon Jaguar.<ref name="vs20110226"><span class='vs logo'></span>Vancouver Sun (Feb 26, 2011), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/image/497701497 "Nanaimo RCMP appeal for help"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/vs20110226 vs20110226]</span></ref> But nobody knew where Lisa was now.<ref name="hoc20201008"/>
'''Lisa's parents retrieved her address book and called ''"all"'' of her many friends.'''{{NW20150501}} Multiple friends said they saw her the previous night, in conversation outside the bar with the unknown male driver of a maroon Jaguar.{{NDN20020712}} Others reported seeing her at a houseparty on Nanaimo Lakes Road{{NDN20030529}}, or leaving a second party around the Cathers Lake area, in the maroon Jaguar.{{VS20110226}} But nobody knew where Lisa was now.{{HOC20201008}}


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=== Contacted Police ===
=== Contacted Police ===
[[File:ndn20020710a.png|border|frame|left|alt=[Lisa's parents] called the Nanaimo RCMP detachment at 11:30am on July 1<sup>st</sup>.|''Nanaimo Daily News'', July 10, 2002 (Paul Walton)<ref name="ndn20020710">Paul Walton, <span class='ndn logo'></span>Nanaimo Daily News (July 10, 2002), ''[https://www.newspapers.com/clip/50704917 "Police fear local met with foul play"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>[https://lisamarieyoung.ca/n/ndn20020710 ndn20020710]</span></ref>|class=notpageimage]]
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[[File:nw20150501c.png|border|frame|right|alt=Frantic, Don and Joanne decided to call the police|''NWAC'', May 1, 2015 (Allison Crowe)<ref name="nw20150501">Allison Crowe, <span class='nw logo'></span>NWAC (May 1, 2015), ''[https://www.nwac.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/NWAC_Story_Telling_Lisa_Marie_Young.pdf "Story Telling - Lisa Marie Young (PDF)"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>nw20150501</span></ref>|class=notpageimage]]
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By this point, Lisa's parents were frantic.<ref name="nw20150501"/>
By this point, Lisa's parents were frantic.{{NW20150501}}


On Monday, July 1<sup>st</sup>, 2002 (Canada Day) at about 11:30am<ref name="ndn20020710"/>, Joanne Young (Lisa's mother) called the Nanaimo RCMP detachment to report that her daughter was missing.<ref name="nw20150501"/>
On Monday, July 1<sup>st</sup>, 2002 (Canada Day) at about 11:30am{{NDN20020710}}, Joanne Young (Lisa's mother) called the Nanaimo RCMP detachment to report that her daughter was missing.{{NW20150501}}}


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=== Report refused by RCMP ===
=== Report refused by RCMP ===


[[File:hss20190624b.png|border|frame|left|alt=[RCMP] said they needed her to be gone 48 hours [before a report could be filed]|''Ha-Shilth-Sa'', June 24, 2019 (Eric Plummer)<ref name="hss20190624">Eric Plummer, <span class='hss logo'></span>Ha-Shilth-Sa (June 24, 2019), ''[https://hashilthsa.com/news/2019-06-24/legacy-lisa-marie-young-hang-tofino "Legacy of Lisa Marie Young to hang in Tofino"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>hss20190624</span></ref>]]
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[[File:hoc20201008_manly_48hours.png|300px|thumb|right|border|frame|alt=they said just give it 48 hours|MP Paul Manly, ''House of Commons'', Dec 8, 2020<ref name="hoc20201008">Paul Manly, <span class='hoc logo'></span>House of Commons (Oct 8, 2020), ''[https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/43-2/house/sitting-12/hansard#Int-10946048 "Debates (Hansard) No. 12 (43-2) at 1525"]'' <span style='font-size:66%;'>hoc20201008</span></ref>]]
[[File:hoc20201008_manly_48hours.png|300px|thumb|right|border|frame|alt=they said just give it 48 hours|MP Paul Manly, ''House of Commons'', Dec 8, 2020{{HOC20201008}}]]


RCMP staff told Lisa's mother that '''''a report couldn't be filed until 48 hours after Lisa was last seen'''''.
RCMP staff told Lisa's mother that '''''a report couldn't be filed until 48 hours after Lisa was last seen'''''.


She was advised to call back to file the report after 2 days had passed.<ref name="ndn20020704"/><ref name="hss20190624"/><ref name="hoc20201008"/>
She was advised to call back to file the report after 2 days had passed.{{NDN20020704}}{{HSS20190624}}{{HOC20201008}}


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=== Policy & Research ===
=== Policy & Research ===


[[File:abc20181008a.png|border|thumb|230px|frame|right|alt=the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts|''ABC News'', October 8, 2018 (Julia Jacobo)<ref name="abc20181008">Julia Jacobo, <span class='abc logo'></span>ABC News (October 8, 2018), ''[https://abcnews.go.com/US/72-hours-missing-persons-investigation-critical-criminology-experts/story?id=58292638 "Why the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts"]''</ref>]]
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While once a common myth, '''<u>no</u> police force in Canada has <u>ever</u> had a policy requiring a "waiting period"''' before submission of a ''missing persons'' report.<ref name="mp20121201"><span class='mpi logo'></span>Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, ''[https://missingpersonsinformation.ca/resources/quick-facts-about-reporting-a-missing-adult-in-canada/ "Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"]''</ref>
While once a common myth, '''<u>no</u> police force in Canada has <u>ever</u> had a policy requiring a "waiting period"''' before submission of a ''missing persons'' report.{{MP20121201}}


Research shows that the first 72 hours are actually the ''most'' critical time frame of a "missing persons" investigation.<ref name="abc20181008"/><ref><span class='niw logo'></span>NIWRC, ''[https://www.niwrc.org/resources/brochure/when-loved-one-goes-missing-quick-reference-guide-what-do-first-72-hours "Quick Reference Guide for What to Do in the First 72 Hours"]''</ref>
Research shows that the first 72 hours are actually the ''most'' critical time frame of a "missing persons" investigation.{{ABC20181008}}<ref><span class='niw logo'></span>NIWRC, ''[https://www.niwrc.org/resources/brochure/when-loved-one-goes-missing-quick-reference-guide-what-do-first-72-hours "Quick Reference Guide for What to Do in the First 72 Hours"]''</ref>


[[File:ccima_48_hour_myth.png|left|180px|border|frame|Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, ''"Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"''<ref name="mp20121201"/>]]
[[File:ccima_48_hour_myth.png|left|180px|border|frame|Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, ''"Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"''{{MP20121201}}]]


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Revision as of 03:52, 13 December 2023

“Call back in 48 hours...”
—Nanaimo RCMP to Lisa's mother
July 1, 2002 11:30am

Summary

When Lisa's mother first called Nanaimo RCMP to report Lisa's disappearance, RCMP staff refused to accept the report, and advised her to call back in 2 days.

This was despite the fact that no police force in Canada has ever had a "waiting period" before a missing persons report can be filed, and, in fact, research clearly shows that the first 72 hours are the most crucial to a missing persons investigation.

Detail

Parent's efforts before calling RCMP

Lisa's parents had reason to be concerned; it was not without due diligence that the decision was made to contact the RCMP.

…about to move into a new apartment
Nanaimo Daily News, July 25, 2002 (Nelson Bennett)[1]
...her father was to help her move into a new apartment the day she went missing
Times Colonist, April 4, 2004 (Jim Gibson)[2]

Lisa had failed to show up for early-morning plans with her father,[3] who was going to help her move into her new apartment using his Purolator Courier truck.[1][2] The move was something Lisa had been looking forward to,[4] and she had pre-paid a deposit on her new unit. As Lisa was normally extremely reliable, her parents were immediately very concerned.[5][6][7]


Efforts to call her cellphone since then have been met only with voice mail.
Nanaimo Daily News, July 4, 2002 (Paul Walton)[3]
they were very close with their daughter, and it was unlike her to not be in touch
Nanaimo Daily News, July 9, 2002 (Paul Walton)[8]

Calls by Lisa's mother to her cellphone were forwarded directly to voicemail.[3] This added concern as Lisa had purchased the cellphone proactively/primarily so that her parents could always contact her (as she'd always been very close to her parents).[8] Lisa always carefully ensured the phone was charged, and she had never powered it off.[9]


She called every number in [Lisa's phone book]
Native Women's Association of Canada, May 1, 2015 (Allison Crowe)[10]
maroon or red four-door Jaguar
Nanaimo Daily News, July 12, 2002 (Paul Walton)[11]

Lisa's parents retrieved her address book and called "all" of her many friends.[10] Multiple friends said they saw her the previous night, in conversation outside the bar with the unknown male driver of a maroon Jaguar.[11] Others reported seeing her at a houseparty on Nanaimo Lakes Road[12], or leaving a second party around the Cathers Lake area, in the maroon Jaguar.[13] But nobody knew where Lisa was now.[14]

Contacted Police

[Lisa's parents] called police at 11:30am on July 1.
Nanaimo Daily News, July 10, 2002 (Paul Walton)[5]
Frantic, Don and Joanne decided to call the police
Native Women's Association of Canada, May 1, 2015 (Allison Crowe)[10]

By this point, Lisa's parents were frantic.[10]

On Monday, July 1st, 2002 (Canada Day) at about 11:30am[5], Joanne Young (Lisa's mother) called the Nanaimo RCMP detachment to report that her daughter was missing.[10]}

Report refused by RCMP

[RCMP] said they needed her to be gone 48 hours [before a report could be filed]
Ha-Shilth-Sa, June 24, 2019 (Eric Plummer)[9]
they said just give it 48 hours
MP Paul Manly, House of Commons, Dec 8, 2020[14]

RCMP staff told Lisa's mother that a report couldn't be filed until 48 hours after Lisa was last seen.

She was advised to call back to file the report after 2 days had passed.[3][9][14]

Policy & Research

the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical, according to criminology experts
ABC News, October 8, 2018 (Julia Jacobo)[15]

While once a common myth, no police force in Canada has ever had a policy requiring a "waiting period" before submission of a missing persons report.[16]

Research shows that the first 72 hours are actually the most critical time frame of a "missing persons" investigation.[15][17]

Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults, "Quick Facts about Reporting a Missing Adult in Canada"[16]


See Also

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 Nelson Bennett, Nanaimo Daily News (July 25, 2002), Lisa's kin follow psychic tip (source)
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Jim Gibson, Times Colonist (Apr 4, 2004), The case Nanaimo can't forget (source)
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 4, 2002), Parents fear daughter the victim of foul play (src)
  4. ↑ Jason Proctor, Vancouver Province (Sep 2, 2002), Where is Lisa-Marie? (source)
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 10, 2002), Police fear local met with foul play (source)
  6. ↑ Jolene Rudisuela, Capital Daily (May 5, 2021), More people go missing in BC than anywhere else in Canada. No one knows why (source)
  7. ↑ Fort McMurray Today (July 10, 2002), Foul play suspected in missing B.C. woman (source)
  8. ↑ 8.0 8.1 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 9, 2002), RCMP keep searching for woman (source)
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 Eric Plummer, Ha-Shilth-Sa (June 24, 2019), Legacy of Lisa Marie Young to hang in Tofino (source)
  10. ↑ 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 Allison Crowe, NWAC (May 1, 2015), Story Telling - Lisa Marie Young (PDF) (source)
  11. ↑ 11.0 11.1 Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 12, 2002), Woman's disappearance leaves friends perplexed ...rumours unfounded (source)
  12. ↑ Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (May 29, 2003), When sadness turns to anger (source)
  13. ↑ Vancouver Sun (Feb 26, 2011), Nanaimo RCMP appeal for help (source)
  14. ↑ 14.0 14.1 14.2 Paul Manly, House of Commons (Oct 8, 2020), Debates (Hansard) No. 12 (43-2) at 1525 (source)
  15. ↑ 15.0 15.1 Julia Jacobo, ABC News (Oct 8, 2018), Why the first 72 hours in a missing persons investigation are the most critical (source)
  16. ↑ 16.0 16.1 Canadian Centre for Information on Missing Adults (Dec 1, 2012), Quick facts about reporting a missing adult in Canada - CCIMA (source)
  17. ↑ NIWRC, "Quick Reference Guide for What to Do in the First 72 Hours"
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