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<small>This is an unfinished outline of events, created in hopes of grabbing the attention of someone at CBC News who can/will bring this outrageous scandal into the public eye at the national level, hopefully resulting in a public inquiry and resolution for Lisa's case, and ideally, spurring sweeping change within our federal police force.<br><br>I have the all facts and can present them meticulously, but I am not skilled at presenting them in a way that gets people's attention and trust, and hopefully, upsets them.</small>
<small>This is an unfinished outline of events, created in hopes of grabbing the attention of someone at CBC News who can/will bring this outrageous scandal into the public eye at the national level, hopefully resulting in a public inquiry and resolution for Lisa's case, and ideally, spurring sweeping change within our federal police force.<br><br>I have the all facts and can present them meticulously, but I am not skilled at presenting them in a way that gets people's attention and trust, and hopefully, upsets them.</small>
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'''Lisa Marie Young''' was a 21-year-old{{NDN20020704}} half-[[wikipedia:Indigenous peoples in Canada|Indigenous]]{{MM20180404}} woman who on Canada&nbsp;Day&nbsp;2002{{YT20090515}} "[[wikipedia:Missing person|disappeared]]" from [[wikipedia:Nanaimo|Nanaimo]],&nbsp;[[wikipedia:British Columbia|BC]]{{NDN20090506}} while out celebrating with friends.{{NDN20090626}}
'''Lisa Marie Young''' was a 21-year-old{{NDN20020704}} half-[[wikipedia:Indigenous peoples in Canada|Indigenous]]{{MM20180404}} woman who on Canada&nbsp;Day&nbsp;2002{{YT20090515}} "[[wikipedia:Missing person|disappeared]]" from [[wikipedia:Nanaimo|Nanaimo]],&nbsp;[[wikipedia:British Columbia|BC]]{{NDN20090506}} while out celebrating with friends.{{NDN20090626}}


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Lisa and her friend Dallas got a ride to a big houseparty from a man they'd just met who was driving a distinctive maroon Jaguar. After the trio moved on to a second party, Lisa and the driver got back in the car with the plan to bring food back to the party.
Lisa and her friend Dallas got a ride to a big [[827 Nanaimo Lakes Road|house party]] from a man they'd just met who was driving a distinctive maroon [[Jaguar]]. After the trio moved on to a [[Cathers Lake|second party]], Lisa and the driver got back in the car with the plan to bring food back to the party.
 
An hour later Lisa called Dallas, upset: [[Lisa's last phone call|''"He won't bring me back."'']] She then texted: [[Lisa's last text message|"They won't let me leave."'']]  Soon after, her phone was shut off, and Lisa's friends and family have never heard from her since.
 
The next morning, Lisa didn't show up for plans with her dad, to move her into her new apartment. Her parents called "all" of Lisa's many friends.
 
{{Unfinished}}


An hour later Lisa called Dallas, upset: "He won't bring me back." She then texted: "They won't let me leave."  Soon after, her phone was shut off, and Lisa's friends and family have never heard from her since.


Lisa failed to show up for morning plans with her dad to help her move into a new apartment.


The next morning, Lisa didn't show up for plans with her dad, to move her into her new apartment.
Her parents called "all" of Lisa's many friends


=== INITIAL DELAYS ===
=== INITIAL DELAYS ===
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=== FAMILY BEGINS INVESTIGATION ===
=== FAMILY BEGINS INVESTIGATION ===
* parents went to media [[RCMP failed to proactively publicize Lisa's case]]
* parents went to media [[RCMP failed to proactively publicize Lisa's case]]
* Purolator postered the island, 40 tips by day 10
* [[Purolator|Purolator]] postered the island, 40 tips by day 10
* checked Lisa's bank and cellphone records
* checked Lisa's [[RCMP failed to check cellphone records|bank]] and [[RCMP failed to check cellphone records|cellphone records]]
* questioned cabbies, friends, business owners
* questioned cabbies, friends, business owners


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* [[RCMP's first search was focused more on officer training than on Lisa]]
* [[RCMP's first search was focused more on officer training than on Lisa]]
* [[RCMP staffing issues prevented additional searches for Lisa]]
* [[RCMP staffing issues prevented additional searches for Lisa]]
* [[RCMP lied about how often they searched/plan to searches for Lisa]]
* [[RCMP lied about how often they searched for Lisa|RCMP lied about how often they searched]]/[[RCMP lied about planned searches for Lisa|plan to search for Lisa]]


=== RCMP RE-ENACTMENT ===
=== RCMP RE-ENACTMENT ===
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* [[RCMP disorganization with Makayla Chang murder revealed connection to Lisa's case]]
* [[RCMP disorganization with Makayla Chang murder revealed connection to Lisa's case]]


* [[RCMP adamantly insisted "Lisa was never there"|RCMP adamantly insisted Lisa was "never" at 827 Nanaimo Lakes Rd]]
* [[RCMP adamantly insisted "Lisa was never there"|RCMP adamantly insisted Lisa was "never" at 827 Nanaimo Lakes Road]]
** people saw Lisa at the party
** people saw Lisa at the party
** psychics pointed at the area
** psychics pointed at the area
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* 18 years later:
* 18 years later:
** 1000's of tips{{CN20210505}} + still coming in a few each month{{CN20220626}}
** 1000's of tips{{CN20210505}} + still coming in a few each month{{CN20220626}}
** by 2020, nearly 20 [[Podcasts|podcast episodes]]
** by 2020, nearly 20 [[Podcasts|podcast episodes]] (By 2023, over 50 episodes)
*** including Island Crime (15ep, 10hrs){{IC20200518-101}}
*** including Island Crime (15ep, 10hrs){{IC20200518-101}}


* RCMP SEARCHED 827 Nanaimo Lakes Rd in Dec 2020:{{CN20201217}}
* RCMP SEARCHED [[827 Nanaimo Lakes Road]] in Dec 2020:{{CN20201217}}
** [[RCMP's improper GPR usage rendered scan useless]]
** [[RCMP's improper GPR usage rendered scan useless]]
** [[RCMP misled the public: "Police Dog" vs Cadaver Dog]]
** [[RCMP misled the public: "Police Dog" vs Cadaver Dog]]
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== Sources ==
== Sources ==


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<table>
|- style="font-style:italic;"
<tr>
! style="text-decoration:underline; text-align:right;" | what happened
<th>what happened:</th>
! 
<th></th>
! style="text-decoration:underline; text-align:left;" | I know from
<th>I know from:</th>
|-
</tr>
| Lisa's previous jobs & long-term goal
<tr>
| &rarr;
<td>Lisa's previous jobs & long-term goal</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | media articles
<td>&rarr;</td>
|-
<td>media articles</td>
| before Lisa left home
</tr>
| &rarr;
<tr>
| style="text-align:left;" | media articles
<td>before Lisa left home</td>
|-
<td>&rarr;</td>
| before Lisa entered The Jungle
<td>media articles</td>
| &rarr;
</tr>
| style="text-align:left;" | Lisa told me, also media articles
<tr>
|-
<td>before Lisa entered The Jungle</td>
| while in The Jungle
<td>&rarr;</td>
| &rarr;
<td>Lisa told me, also media articles</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | first hand
</tr>
|-
<tr>
| first 2 houseparties
<td>while in The Jungle</td>
| &rarr;
<td>&rarr;</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | media articles, also later conversation with Dallas
<td>first hand</td>
|-
</tr>
| Bowen Rd & cellphone location
<tr>
| &rarr;
<td>first 2 houseparties</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | media articles
<td>&rarr;</td>
|-
<td>media articles, also later conversation with Dallas</td>
| 3rd houseparty
</tr>
| &rarr;
<tr>
| style="text-align:left;" | conclusion by witness
<td>Bowen Rd & cellphone location</td>
|-
<td>&rarr;</td>
| return to Nanaimo Lakes, murder, burial
<td>media articles</td>
| &rarr;
</tr>
| style="text-align:left;" | witness statements 2018-2020
<tr>
|-
<td>3rd houseparty</td>
| concealment
<td>&rarr;</td>
| &rarr;
<td>conclusion by witness</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | witness, also historical satellite photos
</tr>
|-
<tr>
| info about those present
<td>return to Nanaimo Lakes, murder, burial</td>
| &rarr;
<td>&rarr;</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | first hand
<td>witness statements 2018-2020</td>
|-
</tr>
| RCMP search of Dec 2020
<tr>
| &rarr;
<td>concealment</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | media articles
<td>&rarr;</td>
|-
<td>witness, also historical satellite photos</td>
| what went wrong with search (GPR, dog)
</tr>
| &rarr;
<tr>
| style="text-align:left;" | several sources online
<td>info about those present</td>
|-
<td>&rarr;</td>
| Muntener lies, manipulation
<td>first hand</td>
| &rarr;
</tr>
| style="text-align:left;" | first hand (phone calls Jan 6 & 8, 2021)
<tr>
|-
<td>RCMP search of Dec 2020</td>
| surveillance (of me) started Jan 11, 2021
<td>&rarr;</td>
| &rarr;
<td>media articles</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | Supreme Court (April 2023)
</tr>
|-
<tr>
| RCMP prevented 1st website launch attempt
<td>what went wrong with search (GPR, dog)</td>
| &rarr;
<td>&rarr;</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | RCMP search Sept 2022 <small>Same day as planned launch</small>
<td>several sources online</td>
|-
</tr>
| RCMP prevented 2nd website launch attempt
<tr>
| &rarr;
<td>Muntener lies, manipulation</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | RCMP arrest Jan 2023 <small>1 day before site launch</small>
<td>&rarr;</td>
|-
<td>first hand (phone calls Jan 6 & 8, 2021)</td>
| Subsequent RCMP search
</tr>
| &rarr;
<tr>
| style="text-align:left;" | current homeowners
<td>surveillance (of me) started Jan 11, 2021</td>
|-
<td>&rarr;</td>
| RCMP used FPR
<td>Supreme Court (April 2023)</td>
| &rarr;
</tr>
| style="text-align:left;" | concluded
<tr>
|-
<td>RCMP prevented 1st website launch attempt</td>
| what went wrong with FPR
<td>&rarr;</td>
| &rarr;
<td>RCMP search Sept 2022 Same day as planned launch</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | multiple sources online
</tr>
|-
<tr>
| mistreatment of Lisa's family
<td>RCMP prevented 2nd website launch attempt</td>
| &rarr;
<td>&rarr;</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | media articles
<td>RCMP arrest Jan 2023 1 day before site launch</td>
|-
</tr>
| RCMP lied about Crime Stoppers
<tr>
| &rarr;
<td>Subsequent RCMP search</td>
| style="text-align:left;" | media articles & first hand
<td>&rarr;</td>
|}
<td>current homeowners</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>RCMP used FPR</td>
<td>&rarr;</td>
<td>concluded</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>what went wrong with FPR</td>
<td>&rarr;</td>
<td>multiple sources online</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>mistreatment of Lisa's family</td>
<td>&rarr;</td>
<td>media articles</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>RCMP lied about Crime Stoppers</td>
<td>&rarr;</td>
<td>media articles & first hand</td>
</tr>
</table>




Latest revision as of 14:52, 29 October 2024

This is an unfinished outline of events, created in hopes of grabbing the attention of someone at CBC News who can/will bring this outrageous scandal into the public eye at the national level, hopefully resulting in a public inquiry and resolution for Lisa's case, and ideally, spurring sweeping change within our federal police force.

I have the all facts and can present them meticulously, but I am not skilled at presenting them in a way that gets people's attention and trust, and hopefully, upsets them.


Lisa Marie Young was a 21-year-old[1] half-Indigenous[2] woman who on Canada Day 2002[3] "disappeared" from Nanaimo, BC[4] while out celebrating with friends.[5]

The case has seen no arrests, and no remains were recovered... despite RCMP receiving "thousands" of tips from the public, including precise burial coordinates

Lisa and her friend Dallas got a ride to a big house party from a man they'd just met who was driving a distinctive maroon Jaguar. After the trio moved on to a second party, Lisa and the driver got back in the car with the plan to bring food back to the party.

An hour later Lisa called Dallas, upset: "He won't bring me back." She then texted: "They won't let me leave." Soon after, her phone was shut off, and Lisa's friends and family have never heard from her since.

The next morning, Lisa didn't show up for plans with her dad, to move her into her new apartment. Her parents called "all" of Lisa's many friends.

🛈 This isn't finished. This incomplete version of this page has been uploaded as a "placeholder".
There is more to this story, much of it available online with the lisamarieyoung.ca search page, or within Lisa's Wikipedia page, the 100's of media articles and dozens of privately-produced podcasts discussing Lisa's "disappearance".



INITIAL DELAYS

RCMP DROPPED BALL

FAMILY BEGINS INVESTIGATION

RCMP's EFFORTS FOR LISA's PARENTS

RCMP HANDLING OF ADAIR

RCMP's FIRST SEARCH

RCMP RE-ENACTMENT

RCMP DOSSIER


  • 18 years later:
    • 1000's of tips[6] + still coming in a few each month[7]
    • by 2020, nearly 20 podcast episodes (By 2023, over 50 episodes)
      • including Island Crime (15ep, 10hrs)[8]


Sources

what happened: I know from:
Lisa's previous jobs & long-term goal → media articles
before Lisa left home → media articles
before Lisa entered The Jungle → Lisa told me, also media articles
while in The Jungle → first hand
first 2 houseparties → media articles, also later conversation with Dallas
Bowen Rd & cellphone location → media articles
3rd houseparty → conclusion by witness
return to Nanaimo Lakes, murder, burial → witness statements 2018-2020
concealment → witness, also historical satellite photos
info about those present → first hand
RCMP search of Dec 2020 → media articles
what went wrong with search (GPR, dog) → several sources online
Muntener lies, manipulation → first hand (phone calls Jan 6 & 8, 2021)
surveillance (of me) started Jan 11, 2021 → Supreme Court (April 2023)
RCMP prevented 1st website launch attempt → RCMP search Sept 2022 Same day as planned launch
RCMP prevented 2nd website launch attempt → RCMP arrest Jan 2023 1 day before site launch
Subsequent RCMP search → current homeowners
RCMP used FPR → concluded
what went wrong with FPR → multiple sources online
mistreatment of Lisa's family → media articles
RCMP lied about Crime Stoppers → media articles & first hand


See also


References

  1. ↑ Paul Walton, Nanaimo Daily News (July 4, 2002), Parents fear daughter the victim of foul play (src)
  2. ↑ MMIWG Inquiry (Apr 4, 2018), Vancouver Community MMIWG Hearings Day 1 - Martin Moses and Carla Moss (source)
  3. ↑ Shaw TV, YouTube (May 15, 2009), Lisa Marie Young - Crime Stoppers (video) (source)
  4. ↑ Nanaimo Daily News (May 6, 2009), Still unsolved (source)
  5. ↑ Nanaimo Daily News (June 26, 2009), Family will hold vigil for missing Nanaimo woman (source)
  6. ↑ Skye Ryan, CHEK News (May 5, 2021), 'Today's a very hard day': Family of missing woman Lisa Marie Young marks her 40th birthday (source)
  7. ↑ Kendall Hanson, CHEK News (June 26, 2022), Community marches for Lisa Young 20 years after she went missing in Nanaimo (source)
  8. ↑ Laura Palmer, Island Crime podcast (May 18, 2020), s1e01: Who is Lisa Marie (source)
  9. ↑ Kendall Hanson, CHEK News (Dec 17, 2020), Nanaimo RCMP conduct new searches in nearly two-decade-old case (source)
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